Windows 7 Pricing

[Crazy BigGaz]

WINDOWS 7 UPGRADE PRICES
Home Premium - £79.99
Professional - £189.99
Ultimate - £199.99

WINDOWS 7 RETAIL PRICES
Home Premium - £149.99
Professional - £219.99
Ultimate - £229.99

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8118749.stm

[iGoD ReleNtLeS]

WINDOWS 7 UPGRADE PRICES
Ultimate - £199.99


WHAT... £200 for an upgrade. more than vista 64Bit Ultimate From Nova...

taking the gimic!

best get saving then. :D

[aaron333]

Stand alone versions of Windows 7, that can run on more than one PC, will also be available.

Intresting..........

[Crazy BigGaz]

I will most likely get the OEM version next year and get a piece of hardware

[Callidus]

I'll wait for them to make a similar offer to students that they did with Vista

ultimate 64bit for £40 yes please


Cal

[J1993]

I'll wait for them to make a similar offer to students that they did with Vista

ultimate 64bit for £40 yes please


Cal

Whats this?

Next year i will be classed as a student as i will have left school and go to sixth form, so what is this student thing?

[Callidus]

Hi Jay,

Here's the linky bargainalicious (http://www.microsoft.com/student/discounts/theultimatesteal-uk/default.aspx) I would imagine they'll do a similar deal on W7 not within a year of launch maybe but they wiil do it.


Cal

[A Ginger Sheep]

Whats this?

Next year i will be classed as a student as i will have left school and go to sixth form, so what is this student thing?

is six formers classified as students? how do u know if its true? if it is then thanks j, u just made my night :agree:

[Callidus]

you need an educational email addy in order to apply for the student pricing

something like .ac.uk .sch.uk etc


Cal

[NeilX90]

I think it's called an 'educational license' rather than 'student' as we tend to know it in the UK. Basically, anyone in higher education, be they teachers, students etc. from the sixth form onwards should qualify for the lower price - this is certainly the case with the Office package and I see no reason why MS would suddenly change their policy, so I think you'll get the deal.

(Edit - if you don't have an email address as Cal points out, you can still apply using regular post to an authorised dealer - they'll just want a letter of confirmation that you are in full time education)

[A Ginger Sheep]

so basically ur school email, would c2k email be ok?

[koolpc]

You don't need to buy any hardware with an OEM version anymore. Been like that for ages now.

I will wait to see what the OEM price will be. If it is too high then i will stick with Vista or even XP.

[Helior]

You don't need to buy any hardware with an OEM version anymore. Been like that for ages now.

I will wait to see what the OEM price will be. If it is too high then i will stick with Vista or even XP.

Technically the licence of an OEM copy of windows doesn't allow it to be installed on a self build, only on a computer to be sold on. But who will know or care :p

[Callidus]

Technically the licence of an OEM copy of windows doesn't allow it to be installed on a self build, only on a computer to be sold on. But who will know or care :p


"I built it to sell on, the buyer pulled out before paying for / collecting the pc"

job done :D

Cal

[koolpc]

Technically the licence of an OEM copy of windows doesn't allow it to be installed on a self build, only on a computer to be sold on. But who will know or care :p

You can buy OEM software anywhere without any hardware. Thats good enough for most people!

[coursemyhorse]

There are a few sites with Pricing information revealed now, but they are all very confilcting and confusing. I basically have a legit copy of XP Pro and want to know the cheapest way of getting Windows 7 ultimate 64bit.

Also:

1: Is it true OEM Windows 7 means you can only install on 1 motherboard?
2: Retail allows it to go on multiple hardware with no problems but obviously only one piece of hardware at a time?
3: Is it true that Europe have no upgrade options due to the IE8 fiasco?

[snakedoc]

There are a few sites with Pricing information revealed now, but they are all very confilcting and confusing. I basically have a legit copy of XP Pro and want to know the cheapest way of getting Windows 7 ultimate 64bit.

Also:

1: Is it true OEM Windows 7 means you can only install on 1 motherboard?
2: Retail allows it to go on multiple hardware with no problems but obviously only one piece of hardware at a time?
3: Is it true that Europe have no upgrade options due to the IE8 fiasco?

YES to all. But as others have said, building an OEM machine for yourself, you are no more legal than a pirate. You may as well save the money and get cracked version.

[coursemyhorse]

YES to all. But as others have said, building an OEM machine for yourself, you are no more legal than a pirate. You may as well save the money and get cracked version.

Eh? Are you saying the OEM Vista 64 bit I bought from Novatech is illegal to use?

[Naphta]

Eh? Are you saying the OEM Vista 64 bit I bought from Novatech is illegal to use?
Looks like it my friend.

[PMM]

I suppose things have changed since XP ?

I have always purchased OEM cd's - never had any issue changing hardware apart from significant changes which prompts a call to M$ - but they have always created me an activation.

[Helior]

Snakedoc you go too far, the law isn't black and white, yes it is technically illegal to use OEM in such a way but it is not the same as outright piracy in legal or moral terms.

[snakedoc]

Snakedoc you go too far, the law isn't black and white, yes it is technically illegal to use OEM in such a way but it is not the same as outright piracy in legal or moral terms.

To use OEM software in this way, you simply will not be licensed. The OEM licensing has not changed. The license agreement is black and white (depending on your screen colour!), OEM software is for a system builder to use and pass on to an end user, be it for money or not. If you use you own purchased OEM software on your own build you are not licensed. Same as pirating the OS. Doesn't stop anyone as such though. This fact is very clear.

[A Ginger Sheep]

really tho, who cares if its legal or not? its not as if your going to be caught. only reason not to get an oem copy is if your constantly upgrading and you might have to get a new activation key but even that only requires a call to microsoft. anyway its not anywhere as bad as piracy as you have still paid about 90 quid unlike piracy which you pay nothing. and btw i bill gates has too much f**kin money to spend in his life time anyway so i doubt itll really hurt his pocket if we all buy oem instead of retail. :rant:

[koolpc]

Also, say i build a PC for my wife, use OEM, am i legal? Get a grip snakedoc, all MS are concerned about is that people actually buy their software. They know that thousands of people probably buy OEM for personal use. It is the pirates that they are against, not the average guy who buys an OEM to save some money!

[snakedoc]

Also, say i build a PC for my wife, use OEM, am i legal? Get a grip snakedoc

If you build a machine for someone else then that's fine. You just are not allowed to buy OEM software to use on your own machine. You also do not receive any support from Microsoft. Not that this should matter because if you are building machines, you should know how to fix issues or find out how to by other means. I too originally bought Vista as OEM but later got myself some retail licenses for Ultimate to ensure I was fully licensed.

Please do not tell me to "get a grip".

I am not saying do not buy OEM should it be available, it's up to you. I was simply pointing out the truth behind an OEM OS.


They know that thousands of people probably buy OEM for personal use. It is the pirates that they are against, not the average guy who buys an OEM to save some money!

Simply not true. A colleague had OEM Vista installed. He got an update from Microsoft which then invalidated his copy. It thought the hardware had changed. He could not get it reactivated via MS as it was OEM and had to use system restore to roll it back. This was 6 months after release. I have read of many others with similar experiences. While another person I know has been running Vista Ultimate since release with a BIOS hack and has never once had a peep of a problem. Microsoft have taken no measures against this hack. It's actually easier for the pirates to use the OS than the people who paid for it.

[Helior]

I have had OEM's reactivated by MS multiple times, i call BS on that. They don't care if home builders use OEM software imo, they would never deactivate a licence for that reason.

[koolpc]

I agree. I have never ever had an OEM refused to activate by Microsoft.

[Shade]

You can pre-order the full version of Home Premium for £50. Bargain! (Pre-orders start July 15th for EU)

[A Ginger Sheep]

You can pre-order the full version of Home Premium for £50. Bargain! (Pre-orders start July 15th for EU)

will we be able to pre-order from novatech or will we have to get it from microsoft direct?

[Shade]

Microsoft will announce a list of participating retailing on the 15th.

[coursemyhorse]

If you build a machine for someone else then that's fine.


Well I built it for my mate that doesn't mind me permanetly borrowing his entire rig. Is that legal? ;)

[koolpc]

Build one for the wife. Is that legal?

[iGoD ReleNtLeS]

microsoft arn't exacly going to care... you payed for the product, they have thier monies and you get what you wanted.

no one could find out anyway, unless you tell them you built it yourself.

[J1993]

If i have windows 7 RC1 on my pc, do i buy retail or upgrade?
Also, if it is upgrade, do i need to wipe the HDD

[aspdend]

You need to buy retail unless you have another OS that can be validated for an upgrade path

[iGoD ReleNtLeS]

you need an educational email addy in order to apply for the student pricing

something like .ac.uk .sch.uk etc


Cal

nice :P i think i may just have to get my son to apply for windows 7 :P

also i think this is pritty reasonable for my new build. http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?MS-VHP64OU#top

[Vic]

the law isn't black and white

Yes it is.

You are making a copy of copyrighted material. That is only lawful with a licence from the copyright holder.

If you choose to buy a licence with conditions with which you do not comply, then you do not have a licence. It's that simple.

Whether or not there is a sugnificant probability of detection is irrelevant; the act is still unlawful. You might choose to take your chances with breaking the law; I do not.

Vic.

[iGoD ReleNtLeS]

Yes it is.

You are making a copy of copyrighted material. That is only lawful with a licence from the copyright holder.

If you choose to buy a licence with conditions with which you do not comply, then you do not have a licence. It's that simple.

Whether or not there is a sugnificant probability of detection is irrelevant; the act is still unlawful. You might choose to take your chances with breaking the law; I do not.

Vic.

in took business studies along with law at A levels, and for every law there is a loophole, or another way around it.

no one is going to know you built the computer yourself... give me one way of finding that information out, then i'll give you a £10... Jokes.

[Vic]

in took business studies along with law at A levels, and for every law there is a loophole, or another way around it.

Not true.

Your best bet, should you choose to break the law here, is to attempt to evade detection.

Bragging about things on a publicly-visible forum deosn't really help.


no one is going to know you built the computer yourself... give me one way of finding that information out, then i'll give you a £10... Jokes.

Again, you're talking about evading detection, not about operating lawfully.

Now you might be right - you might not get caught.

But that doesn't meant that it is within the law to do what you are talking about.

Nor does it make it a good idea to discuss breaking the law in public.

Vic.

[codemonkey]

Vic is completely right.

If an OEM license is purchased, Microsoft will only consider the license to be valid if the following terms have been adhered to:-

The license is distributed with a fully assembled computer.
It's only valid if installed on the hard disk drive of the fully assembled computer.
Also Microsoft will not provide direct support for the product.

I will also point out the forum rules which state "Discussion of illegal activities such as software and music piracy and other intellectual property violations are not allowed"

So stop discussing pirating Windows. If you persist then further action will be taken.

[iGoD ReleNtLeS]

Not true.

Your best bet, should you choose to break the law here, is to attempt to evade detection.
Bragging about things on a publicly-visible forum deosn't really help.
Again, you're talking about evading detection, not about operating lawfully.
Now you might be right - you might not get caught.
But that doesn't meant that it is within the law to do what you are talking about.
Nor does it make it a good idea to discuss breaking the law in public.
Vic.

im not suggesting anything. i've never built myself a system, my work provides a laptop for me, and i build my desktops for my wife and children.

sry codemonkey. my bad :(

[xpress]

Not cheap, but definately top quality so far! Im breaking the piggy bank for ultimate..