Windows Vista

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsvista/images/image017.jpg
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsvista/images/image019.jpg

[asteroid]

looks nice, but heavy on minimum specs

apparently its got guitar chords for start up tunes now :)

[rssfed23]

Thats a bit weird: the sidebar was not present in the latest version released (december CTP) although they may have included it now (goes of too mdsn).

Yeah, vista is a bit hard on min specs - it is said that only 1/2 of PC's will be able to run the new areo glass 3D theme

[kevina]

Yes Vista does have a high min spec but when you think the rate that hardware markets change's the spec may not look so high when vista is released

[Big Beere]

Hi all,

I have the New Windows VISTA skin and Sounds 8) . . .. Very nice and relaxing when starting and shutting down my systems - listerning to the new themes etc.

Below is a screen shot of my Desktop :shock: (hope this image will work)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1129813/screenshot.JPG

If anyone wants the Skin and sounds you can add me on MSN and I can send you them (30mb file - self extracting - 2 simple restarts - no fuss :wink: - (xbox_rocks_24_7@hotmail.co.uk) - Sorry I cant remember the website I downloaded it from :roll:

[rssfed23]

This looks like one of the many lista/longhorn transformation packs.

I tried one of these (before i had vista) and it completely fucked up the system

[Big Beere]

:roll: lol ... ARR I see... Well I have had this Skin for a good 3 weeks with no problems. I am able to do all my usual tasks and extras (gaming etc) No Problems!


(before i had vista)

You have VISTA :?:

[rssfed23]

You have VISTA :?:

Yep (December CTP build). Once you disable the indexing service, system restore, and windows defender it runs quite well. They will work out the speed bugs and such in the last two stages of development.

That is why i am suspicious about the first post - my one (and screenshots of others) do NOT have that sidebar (i can even find news evidence that it was removed in the late stages of Longhorn), so that leaves us with either a fake, or a false repensation of Vista for the readers.

Looking foward to the "Feature and code complete" Febuary release (which should come out withen 2 weeks time)

[Big Beere]

MINT !

To be honest, I am a tad bored of WIN XP home/Pro now. I am ready for an extreme change !

Windows VISTA is going to be much more user friendly but more Professional if that makes much sence? Not like XP where you have the BRIGHT BLUE colours and BIG 'Close' 'Minimize' icons (top right of all progs/files etc)

VISTA will be a joy to work with and I cant wait until i get my copy. (Does anyone know actually how much the OS will be when its released?)

Thanks,

Big B

[rssfed23]

Th O/S will probally be arround the £120 mark when it's first released (for the ultimate edition). But i estimate that the starter edition is arround £40 and the home professional arround £100 (although these are just my gusses - it will probally cost more when it comes out).

Although oveall it would probally be best to buy a computer with it preinstalled, as as said, it requires a heck of a lot of processing specs for the new theme to actually work.

I agree with you with your comments about it being the best yet.

I also agree that it will start a new revoloution of Media Centre PC's (like MCE tried to do - but failed). On the December CTP you can acess the MEdia Centre functions and they are a vast improvment on MCE 2005

[Big Beere]

cheers for that !

Well, I am saving to buy new componets for a new system build just for VISTA !

I already have 3 systems running at the moment . . . haha just waiting for VISTA to arrive.. then it will be 4 systems :D

I am a bit of a mad-man when it comes to building/modding/stripping systems :P

[nitram]

I am a Vista beta tester and looking forward to the feb CTP.


The long awaited sidebar is coming and here is your chance to talk to members of the team who have been working to bring it to Windows Vista.

[rssfed23]

It is expected to get released today. The proper beta 2 - cant wait!!!

[Taxation]

direct X10 with windows vista will mean really cool graphic effects.
cant wait to get my hands on a 7900gtx and run it on vista.should run like a dream

[nitram]

Nothing on connect yet.

[nitram]

Ok we all have it now. Vista 5308.
I was going to post some screens but it seems we cannot upload them here so ill have to add them to photobucket and add them later.

[Big Beere]

Please do, I will be interested what it looks like.

Cheerz

Big B 8)

[rssfed23]

Ive got no screens but from what ive seen so dar and can say is that Microsoft are doing well with this and i can see it becoming a really good OS.

Installation is really simple (for once) and it was faster this time for me (only took an hour instead of two - far of the predicted time of 15 mins)

Well, the sidebar is ok but could do with a few tweaks.

And I stilll have the problem of the indexing service using all HDD usage so it had to be disabled (i dont search my comp anyway)

[nitram]

Ok here goes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/sekrap/01425sz1i12003900.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/sekrap/01425sz1i12003800.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/sekrap/01425sz1i12003700.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/sekrap/01425sz1i12003600.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/sekrap/01425sz1i12002700.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/sekrap/01425sz1i11999700.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/sekrap/01425sz1i11999000.jpg

[Taxation]

looks nice, anyone know what the minimum specs for it are

[nitram]

Works well on my laptop.

1.6gig cpu
40gig hard drive
512 meg ram

[Taxation]

i thought it wasnt out yet

[rssfed23]

Vista final will not be out until later this year (or even later).
These screenshots are for the latest beta version, which is build 5308 (or the Febuary CTP), it is supposed to be a feature complete version so should have all the features they want in it so far.

As for the minimum specs i read somewhere:

1.5Ghz Processor
4Gb space for normal install or 8Gb for upgrade (these can vary though)
512mb RAM

[Taxation]

what about the graphics card, i heard that it would be pretty extensive.
would my 128mb fx 5200 work on it
where can i get the beta for it, it looks pretty good

[rssfed23]

Now the graphics card needs to be good for you to have the new "glass" areo theme (which i dont have cus no graphics card *sigh*

Only offical beta testers/select companies from microsoft are supposed to have the beta, but you can download it from torrent sites or IRC, but you will probally have problems with activation and you must also choose the correct version (32 or 64 bit or client or server (although thats done by serial key))

[Taxation]

sooooooooooo, i cant get it without getting probed in the *** by microsoft really, i heard that if you have a machine with vista on it, but then you change ur mobo, then you have to buy the license for vista again.

[Taxation]

sooooooooooo, i cant get it without getting probed in the *** by microsoft really, i heard that if you have a machine with vista on it, but then you change ur mobo, then you have to buy the license for vista again.

[rssfed23]

Vista is not actually released yet, so the point is half valid.

If you look at http://www.msfn.org/comments.php?shownews=16099 then you will see that this is currentlly active so it will probally still be the same when vista is actually released.

[gwendes]

sooooooooooo, i cant get it without getting probed in the *** by microsoft really, i heard that if you have a machine with vista on it, but then you change ur mobo, then you have to buy the license for vista again.

This is actually the case with Windows XP too. If you change enough hardware then the computer has to be reactivated.

[Taxation]

that just sux
so you have to buy a new OS just to get your computer working legally again
that would mean that my computer is running *cough*not legally*cough*

[Kremmen]

It's not quite as bad as you imagine.

WinXP holds data on the various components within the PC. You may change a few items and not have to re-activate. Other components may force a reactivation. Each component holds a 'points' value that is taken into account.

If this should happen then you need to phone Microsoft to obtain another code as they fully understand that PC peripherals do get changed.

[gwendes]

that just sux
so you have to buy a new OS just to get your computer working legally again
that would mean that my computer is running *cough*not legally*cough*

You wouldn't have to buy a new copy as long as the hardware has not changed significantly. If the hardware has changed enough that it is not seen as the same machine then you are in a grey area and would have to reactivate through Microsoft if they accept that it is the same machine.

[Taxation]

what about if i want to use the same windows xp disk that i have now, would that cause a copyright error or anything like that, seeing that im building a machine from scratch

[gwendes]

You will not be able to use your existing Windows XP license to activate and use Windows Vista. The 'upgrade' requires a new purchase.

[Taxation]

okay.
can i use the same vista disk and code on two machines though

[gwendes]

okay.
can i use the same vista disk and code on two machines though

No.

That would be against the license agreement, and the law...

[Taxation]

ooohhhh :cry:
now thats just silly :roll:

[nitram]

You will not be able to use your existing Windows XP license to activate and use Windows Vista. The 'upgrade' requires a new purchase.

You cant buy vista or a serial key for it.

[nitram]

okay.
can i use the same vista disk and code on two machines though

No.

That would be against the license agreement, and the law...

Against the law yes.

[rssfed23]

All i did to void my activation on vista was install a TV tuner card (this happened on XP too), but as i know that I had the disks legal i used a activation patch (but i can still use windows update) for both versions.

[benmooe]

i need help with my longhorn disc, i only just recived it (thats the post from america for you) longhorn beta 1 i think its called but each time i try to install it it it does nothing, the install bar goes to the end of the page but the computer has had nothing done to it.

it is a legit copy it just wont work

[rssfed23]

Longhorn was abandoned a long time ago, so i suspect that you are tring to install the longhorn server on your computer.

Try booting to the install disk, this way is often more reliable.

Can you posy a screenprint of the cover of the dvd and the front of the dvd and we should be able to tell if it's legit

Thanks,
Rob

[benmooe]

sorry i cant find the case anywhere but i found the dvd

Alpha build no. 5231
http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/9417/longhorn7rr.png

Excuse the quality, my pc room is very dark

its not longhorn server, i belive it has been lost in the post for some time because its says alpha build on it

[rssfed23]

Well build 5231 was an actual build released, but by that time it was renamed vista, although i think that the DVD's hadent been updated with the latest version so it is entirely possible that you have vista/longhorn there

Although it is not the latest version, so i would recommend that you hop off to connect and get the new build (if you are a registered tester but cant find the new build pm me and i will tell you where)

[mark574020]

Hi all

could anyone tell me i have a novatech laptop AMD Turion 64 ML30 1.6GHz Processor but it only shows up as 800MHz which i here is normal
my question is will i have any problems trying to load Vista on this laptop because of this

[gwendes]

Hi all

could anyone tell me i have a novatech laptop AMD Turion 64 ML30 1.6GHz processor ('http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/products/a561x1y0z1p0s0n0m0') but it only shows up as 800MHz which i here is normal
my question is will i have any problems trying to load Vista on this laptop because of this

This is normal : http://forum.novatech.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=67

[Taxation]

It shouldnt have trouble loading vista onto it, maybe not run all the visual effects of vista, but should run it

[Taxation]

ive heard that you need 2GB RAM to play games on vista, is this true, would you need 3GB for "smooth" gameplay or would 2GB be alright

[stu]

As lovely as this all is, has anyone taken a look at project looking glass?

In my humble opinion it makes Vista look dated already...

http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/[/url]

[gwendes]

IMHO that looks really nice but will take some getting used to. It has always been the natural progression from the Windows environment that everyone knows and loves! There are limits to how 'pretty' a GUI can get before real changes start to be made. As long as it is intuative and really allows my fast access to the applications I want to use I'll be happy.

[Chris_H]

Nothing on connect yet.

Probably cause they don't like you :)

How are you a beta tester? Download it off winbeta or something? :P

[Taxation]

Alot of people will need to upgrade, not now, but when vista arrives 1GB RAM will be enough to do WORD PROCESSING
4GB will play games smoothly
2GB will play games but not very well
Im gonna play it safe and stay XP until forced to upgrade

[djgandy]

64bit is all hype anyway. It's main benefit is people doing large memory transfers (databases etc)

Yeh it will play games better too eventually, but rememeber, VISTA is made by microsoft. Don't expect it to work how it should for another 5 years.

XP has been a good o/s. I'm a little skeptical about vista especially with their opengl schenanigans.

[Taxation]

vista has been delayed anyway, plus game makers are still making games that run on windows 98, so it will be a long time before the need to go to vista

[Luc]

Windows Vista will be interesting to see how it turns out.
Though what is bugging me is the new DirectX Series.

At the moment Microsoft are refusing to create upgrades of the DirectX game support system on XP. So you'll see DX 10 on Vista.

So looks like Microsoft is sitting on another gold mine.

I don't believe this could be much better, other than easy/user-friendly interface, what about its infamous stability problems?

[Nox]

As lovely as this all is, has anyone taken a look at project looking glass?

In my humble opinion it makes Vista look dated already...

http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/[/url]

yes, but was on a live disk so ran very slow, atleast i hope that was the reason...

bring back workbench, WIMP in 220k...

Nox

[Marc]

Typical, I just get used to on O/S and they bring out another, I hope there are no compatability problems with older software because when I went to XP from 98/ME I had a lot of messing around to get some stuff working an couldn't get some of it working at all.

[Nox]

There will always be compatibility problems - If you are dead set against having compatibility probs, stay with XP.

Nox

[Taxation]

check that you are vista ready
http://www.ati.com/technology/windowsvi ... Ready.html (http://www.ati.com/technology/windowsvista/AreYouVistaReady.html)
and yes, it does work with nvidia carrds 8)

[deathhaggis]

I've just installed Vista RC1 on the new core2duo 6600 I've just bought and it runs like a dream. I'd even venture to say it's more stable than XP and the Aero interface is lovely. Makes XP looks very dated though to be honest I always preferred the Windows 2000 interface. XP always look to fisher-price like for my liking with the blue taskbar and green start. And I want to shoot that dog that appears everytime you try and search for a file :twisted: The search functionality's much better in Vista. They seem to have incorporated the windows desktop search into the OS and looking for a file is pretty much instantaneous.
That's probably the reason it's got such a thirst for RAM. Running Vista with 1Gb is roughly the equivalent of running XP with 512Mb. It's enough but you'd really want more if you started multi-tasking in anger. I'm defdinitely gonna order another Gig soon.
Overall I'm really impressed with Vista. There's nothing in it that's revolutionary but it's got some solid improvements over XP. I've not noticed any compatibilty problems with the programs I use most of the time either thankfully. Though I'am using the 32-bit version. I've read that literally nothing apart from MS office runs on the x64 version!