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Scallyofwag
16-02-2007, 07:20 PM
I am running a winfast 6150K8MA motherboard on my comp, for the last few months it has been running near perfectly but over the last couple of weeks the CPU has been overheating very quickly from boot up so it switches it self off.

Some times the comp can be on for a few hours before it overheats and turns itself off, other times It doesnt even get past the booting up stage before turning off.

I recently installed a fan on the case to see if that wouldm help it from overheating but that doesnt do any difference.

Is the motherboard faulty or could it be something else that it causing the massive overheat?

soptom
16-02-2007, 07:29 PM
Check the obvious, is it really dusty? Does the fan on the cpu work? Get a cpu fan if not.

Taxation
16-02-2007, 09:22 PM
get into the bios and check the temps
is cpu fan spinning
check if the cpu heatsink is properly fitted

teknokid
16-02-2007, 10:18 PM
depending on your knowledge you could try removing the heatsink and puting some new thermal grease on there...

Scallyofwag
16-02-2007, 10:23 PM
get into the bios and check the temps
is*cpu ('http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/products/a561x1y0z1p0s0n0m0') fan spinning
check if the*cpu ('http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/products/a561x1y0z1p0s0n0m0') heatsink is properly fitted

As far as i know the CPU should be fitted properly cos I got it as a pre-assembled barebones from Novatech

teknokid
16-02-2007, 10:25 PM
what he's saying is the fan might have become disconnected...

Scallyofwag
16-02-2007, 10:26 PM
CPU fan is working and the Temp flatuates between 36 and 38 degrees C

Scallyofwag
16-02-2007, 10:27 PM
How much does it cost to get someone from Novatech to take a look at it?

teknokid
16-02-2007, 10:31 PM
would it still be under warranty?

Scallyofwag
16-02-2007, 10:33 PM
think so, i got it last november, dont know how long the warranty lasts for?

Scallyofwag
16-02-2007, 10:37 PM
only trouble is dont know if I have still got the receipt :(

Scallyofwag
16-02-2007, 10:40 PM
On the subject of Thermal Grease, where is the best place to get it from

teknokid
16-02-2007, 10:42 PM
i dont really know... if its under warranty you should be ok.. if not it might be cheapest to get a new motherboard if you can gurantee thats the problem.

Scallyofwag
16-02-2007, 10:51 PM
just found out maplins sell it so will try the thermal grease first.

If that dont work I'll try a water cooler see if that can keep the temp down cos the system temp is fine just the CPU thats causing the problems

Taxation
17-02-2007, 12:22 AM
CPU fan is working and the Temp flatuates between 36 and 38 degrees C
i wish i could get those temps on air, they are perfectly fine.

Did you install/uninstall anything before this started to happen??

go into the bios, remember the settings you had, turn the computer off, and reset the cmos.
if all else fails , then you may have to either, roll back to last restore point or reinstall windows/use a recovery disc

teknokid
17-02-2007, 08:08 AM
...and a water cooler seems a bit extreme...

Scallyofwag
17-02-2007, 08:26 AM
CPU fan is working and the Temp flatuates between 36 and 38 degrees C
i wish i could get those temps on air, they are perfectly fine.

Did you install/uninstall anything before this started to happen??

go into the bios, remember the settings you had, turn the computer off, and reset the cmos.
if all else fails , then you may have to either, roll back to last restore point or reinstall windows/use a recovery disc

The CPU temp just seems to start rocketing when I play games, I've underclocked the CPU speed and that seems to be working instead of being at 50 - 70 degrees when playing games CPU is now consistantly around 44

Taxation
17-02-2007, 10:25 AM
they are still good temps to be had on air

teknokid
17-02-2007, 03:40 PM
and stock cooler.. the arctic cooler freezer 7 pro is meant to be v.good value and take quite a few degrees off... but u need a well ventilated case and i recoment havin it blow out the back with a couple of exhaust fans behind it!

Scallyofwag
17-02-2007, 09:56 PM
anyway to use liquid nitrogen as a cooler for the CPU i can get it for free from work :wink:

Taxation
17-02-2007, 10:07 PM
you would need to get an inulation kit so your motherboard doesnt get condensation on it, or use watercooling and spray the rad every so often with liquid nitrogen

Scallyofwag
17-02-2007, 10:09 PM
what about instead of filling the water cooler with water using liquid nitrogen instead lol

Taxation
17-02-2007, 10:12 PM
then everything would freeze, the tubes would crack, and the liquid nitrogen would eventualy get warmer, the same as water does,
i like my suggestion about spraying the rad, or submerging the rad in nitrogen 8) , but only for a second, otherwise it will freeze up in the rad and ur pump will get destroyed

Scallyofwag
17-02-2007, 10:28 PM
yours is a good suggestion

teknokid
18-02-2007, 07:57 AM
or you spray it across thr top of cpu.

Taxation
18-02-2007, 09:02 AM
then you will get condensation on the motherboard

Scallyofwag
18-02-2007, 06:11 PM
for the moment I've got the CPU fan plugged in to the system fan slot on the MOBO to see if that helps

teknokid
18-02-2007, 09:35 PM
i dunno. let us know how it goes...

Scallyofwag
18-02-2007, 11:31 PM
its having about as much use as having it in the CPU fan slot.

I'm gonna either get a new CPU fan or get a watercooling setup

teknokid
19-02-2007, 06:07 AM
how can you be sure its not the temperature probe on the motherboard?

Scallyofwag
19-02-2007, 02:51 PM
would the temp probe on the Mobo cause it to switch off through over heating

Taxation
19-02-2007, 05:22 PM
sometimes people set the temps for auto shutdown too low on these things, uninstall the probe and see if it makes a difference, then get a program called "core temp" and this will give you a more accurate readout of the cpu temp

Scallyofwag
19-02-2007, 06:52 PM
I have is set to 75 for auto shutdown

teknokid
19-02-2007, 08:21 PM
lol. i set myn to 50degrees as i'd hate to fry my chip and if it reaches that high on water cooling there's bound to be a problem.

Taxation
19-02-2007, 10:41 PM
if the pump breaks on a watercooling kit then the cpu gets surprisingly hot, very very quickly.
when my pump broke i had to under clock the cpu just so i could get to the internet and order a replacement pump (under warranty)
i would of thought the water would diffuse the heat rather quickly because of the way water is (u know)
but the water just sat there and i could feel the heat on the tubes from it, i was very worried :roll:

teknokid
20-02-2007, 06:37 AM
blimey... would it not be easier to use a spare pc or put the stock cooler on?

Taxation
20-02-2007, 06:50 PM
didnt have a spare pc, or stock cooler as the retention clip snapped when i removed it.

back on subject for one second
what motherboard temps you are getting??

back to tekno
but when watercooling goes well, it goes very well :D

teknokid
20-02-2007, 07:24 PM
yeah... myn doesn't seem that great but then when you have a 3.4ghz cpu and 45 degrees load it looks better....

Taxation
20-02-2007, 08:17 PM
thats quite good temps there.
mine at the moment is 26C across both cores.
but thats at 2ghz, but when i was at 2.4 it was at 32C, and when i was at 2.7 it was about 40C.
but it was silent, and remember, the AMD X2 939 cpu's generate more heat than the newer core 2 duos 8)

teknokid
21-02-2007, 06:12 AM
yeah.. i decided i'm gonna mount my rad externally so i can get better gfx card cooling and more cd drive bays as i've only got one spare which is gonna be taken by a fan controller. i think ill skrew 2 fans on the front and 2 on the back to give better airflow.

Taxation
21-02-2007, 08:59 PM
or keep the rad where it is and just mod a fan controller onto a pci cover or do some case modding and mount it through the top of the case 8)

Topknot
12-04-2007, 10:53 AM
CPU fan is working and the Temp flatuates between 36 and 38 degrees C
i wish i could get those temps on air, they are perfectly fine.

Did you install/uninstall anything before this started to happen??

go into the bios, remember the settings you had, turn the computer off, and reset the cmos.
if all else fails , then you may have to either, roll back to last restore point or reinstall windows/use a recovery disc

The cpu ('http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/products/a561x1y0z1p0s0n0m0') temp just seems to start rocketing when I play games, I've underclocked the cpu ('http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/products/a561x1y0z1p0s0n0m0') speed and that seems to be working instead of being at 50 - 70 degrees when playing games cpu ('http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/products/a561x1y0z1p0s0n0m0') is now consistantly around 44

I have this exact same problem, have just this minute sent an email to customer service.

Comp will run fine till I load a game up but then I get about an hours gamign before the temps reach in excess of 70 degrees and climbing. Even a low system spec game such as World of Warcrft kills it within an hour of gaming.

Have been messing with case fans and therm paste for weeks now. Even bought an Artic Cooler 64 and all its done is prolonged the time till shutdown now.

Ripped the whole thing apart back to stock as it was sent to me and still no difference.

Now that summers incoming its getting worse as temps rise, last night it hit 70+ degrees just running a virus scan and browsing the web. When I set the installer going for the new Lord of the rings mmo it got to around 40% and shut the system down at 80 degrees CPU temp.

The readings seem correct as Ive tried multiple temp sensor progs now and all the same results, plus you can really feel the heat coming off the Arctic Cooler if you put your hand near it.

At my wits end with this thing, in all the years Ive been building PC's Ive never had an overheat problem like this. At leats not one that re-applying the therm paste and adding a case fan havnt solved.

Im considering water cooling but if its a CPU problem I'm reluctant to spend any more money on this thing just to prolong the shutdown time again.

teknokid
12-04-2007, 11:03 AM
no point getting water cooling it should be fine as it is... wierd problem tho..

Topknot
12-04-2007, 11:09 AM
Yeah thats what I thought.

It didnt seem too bad over winter. If I ran Warcraft in windowed mode it kept the temps stable. Theyd still rise but it took a LOT longer to go from 40 to 70 unless we had the central heating on.

Now its overheating the minute it has to do anything that puts load on the CPU for any period of time.

Very frustratign as I bought it for gaming and it does everything fine except what I want it for.

Concerned that a warm summer is going to render the unit unuseable to be honest..