new pc build

[mozzchops]

Wanted to be a low end gaming pc and fairly quiet.

Can anyone save me a bit of money or show me any errors in this set-up. Thanks.

Intel Core i7 930 2.8Ghz (Nehalem) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail
50+ in stock
1
£199.99 £199.99

Gigabyte EX58-UD3R Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
Out of stock: 2 Due 8 March
1
£124.23 £124.23

Akasa Nero CPU Cooler
10 in stock
1
£22.12 £22.12

OCZ StealthXStream 600w Silent SLI Ready ATX2 Power Supply
35 in stock
1
£47.65 £47.65

HIS ATI Radeon 5670 IceQ 1GB GDDR5 DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Graphics Card - Retail
Out of stock: Awaiting Stock
1
£84.52 £84.52

Samsung Spin Point F3 SATAII 1TB 32MB Cache Hard Drive <8.9ms 7200rpm - OEM
50+ in stock
1
£53.60 £53.60

G.Skill Ripjaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
Out of stock: 6 Due 8 March
1
£82.54 £82.54

Can someone also pm me telling me how to put the whole shopping basket on.

[Seanbond]

Get a i7 920 instead.

[iGoD ReleNtLeS]

as already said, you should get the i7 920 as the 930 is identical to it apart from the clock speeds, which can be easily put up to 2.8Ghz on the 920 to match the 930 for free.

Might i also suggest you then use the money you have saved to bump the GPU up to a 5770. Also the RAM you have there is only Dual Channel, with i7's you can go triple channel but that will add another £20-30 on top of your current price, but will give you 6GB of Triple Channel RAM.

If you are only wanting a LOW end gaming PC then i would suggest going for the i5 750, that will save you around £50-100 if you was to change just the CPU, Mobo. An i5 will keep you good in the Graphics area, even on my Pent D 820 and 1GB RAM my 5770 still gives me Max graphics with no AA in most games on DX9 and High-Mid on DX10 games, as for DX11 i cant say really as i am only using XP right now, and even then my RAM is a bottleneck to my 5770.

[brainiac361]

triple channel ram instead

try and strech your budget to a 5770. that 5670 is overpriced for what it does

[mozzchops]

Thanks for the replies you've pushed my budget to £800 now:eek:

What difference would I see with triple channel ram instead of double, during a game of say call of duty and also running windows 7 on You Tube, photoshop or excel spreadsheet?
Could it be something to upgrade to at a later date?

My other question is the graphics card!
What's the difference between 5750 and 5770

If it was the 5770 which manufacturer? There's about £15 difference
Novatech, ASUS, HIS or XFX

Cheers again

[A Ginger Sheep]

double channel ram doesent work with x58. triple channel only. get an i7 860 instead mate. same performance only dual channel ram which perfroms the same as triple. also define what you mean by 'light gaming' so we have a better idea what card to choose for you.

[brainiac361]

double channel ram doesent work with x58. triple channel only. get an i7 860 instead mate. same performance only dual channel ram which perfroms the same as triple. also define what you mean by 'light gaming' so we have a better idea what card to choose for you.
im not sure, i though double channel would have worked, cant see why not.

also, 6gb of ram vs 4gb. photoshop loves ram so cant go wrong with more!

the 5770 is perfect for COD, and pick novatech, always the cheapest. (novatech cards are simply the cheapest card of that type they have at that time. novatech dont make their own cards)

[system7]

Ooh, I love stirring it up, but triple-channel memory is a waste of time according to this report:

http://xtreview.com/review232.htm

My original thread on this issue:

http://forum.novatech.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18230

:xsmile:

[IainK]

lol, there's nothing low end about that rig :P if you want mid-high end gaming PC pick up an i5 bundle, a decent PSU, a 5850 and you're away, will perform much better than the i7 set-up in games aswell :)

[Seanbond]

Ooh, I love stirring it up, but triple-channel memory is a waste of time according to this report:

http://xtreview.com/review232.htm

My original thread on this issue:

http://forum.novatech.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18230

:xsmile:

To be honest, i didn't see s difference from Single to Dual, so triple is just pointless too.

[A Ginger Sheep]

triple channel is completely pointless. also if op needs the extra ram then he could always just get another kit but 4gb should still be fine fo rhis needs.

[IainK]

anyone read my i5 comment? no? well, incase you missed it, for gaming an i5 with a much better gpu (5850) will do much much better

[system7]

There isn't much difference between the Hd 5770 and the HD 5750. The HD 5750 has a few stream processors disabled and slightly lower clocks. But overclocking gets back most of the difference. Either is about twice as good as a HD 5670.

I would chance my arm on a Sapphire HD 5750 like this:
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/Components/Graphics-ATI/ATIHD5700Series/Sapphire/11164-00-20R.html

It has crossfire fingers, so you could add a second later on an OCZ 600W power supply. Goodish gamer, I'd reckon. :thumbs:

[mozzchops]

Light gaming = things like call of duty, Assassins creed battlefield but not used daily but there will be as much photos, excel spreadsheets and interneting as there will be gaming on it.

System 7's triple channel ram thread has given me a curveball, what RAM is needed? Presumably from this bunch. Would my original dual channel definitely not work?:confused:

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/Components/Memory-PCAndLaptop/DDR3-PC3-10666/1333MHz/

Should I go for i5 and better graphics card or stick with i7 and what I've gone for?

[A Ginger Sheep]

anyone read my i5 comment? no? well, incase you missed it, for gaming an i5 with a much better gpu (5850) will do much much better

fair point, seemed to overlook it. i5 would be just as good for gaming and better with the higher end gfx the cash saved on cpu can pay for.

[mozzchops]

So am I better going for the i5 and a better graphics card or i7 and cheaper card?

Heavens knows what RAM I should get I'm all a :confused::confused::confused:

[KyleG]

to put it simple your playing games u will not i repeat will not see much improvement from i5 and i7 unless u have 2 5970 which i doubt u will.
Ram go dual but of DDR3. keep costs down get a single 2gb stick when prices eventually die off buy another 2gb.
Go for a 5770 defo, it is abit more powerful than a 5750 but up to you.
PSU is fine since your using the new 5 series ATi u wont have any problems.

[heir flick]

for gaming i would agree with others, go with the i5 750 and use the money saved on a better graphics card

[mozzchops]

I've chickened out,:( How does this look with a motherboard bundle. Is the power supply good enough? When you click on the power tab there all 750 or 850 watts.

OCZ StealthXStream 600w Silent SLI Ready ATX2 Power Supply
50+ in stock
1
£47.65 £47.65

Samsung Spin Point F3 SATAII 1TB 32MB Cache Hard Drive <8.9ms 7200rpm - OEM
50+ in stock
1
£53.60 £53.60

Novatech Motherboard Bundle - Intel Core i5 750 - 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz - Intel P55 Motherboard
4 in stock
1
£348.93 £348.93

Xigmatek MidGard Midi Tower - Black - No PSU
Out of stock: 18 Due Tomorrow
1
£50.20 £50.20

Sapphire ATI Radeon 5830 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card + Call of Duty Modern Warefare 2 - Retail
1 in stock
1
£179.56 £179.56

[A Ginger Sheep]

swap the 5830 for a 5770 or 5850, the 5830 is a completely pointless card mate. also you only need a 400w if u get a 5770, 5850 would prob fine on that too

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/Components/PowerSupplies/Xigmatek/CPH-0600U-X02.html

[system7]

I've chickened out,:( How does this look with a motherboard bundle. Is the power supply good enough? When you click on the power tab there all 750 or 850 watts.

OCZ StealthXStream 600w Silent SLI Ready ATX2 Power Supply
50+ in stock
1
£47.65 £47.65

Samsung Spin Point F3 SATAII 1TB 32MB Cache Hard Drive <8.9ms 7200rpm - OEM
50+ in stock
1
£53.60 £53.60

Novatech Motherboard Bundle - Intel Core i5 750 - 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz - Intel P55 Motherboard
4 in stock
1
£348.93 £348.93

Xigmatek MidGard Midi Tower - Black - No PSU
Out of stock: 18 Due Tomorrow
1
£50.20 £50.20

Sapphire ATI Radeon 5830 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card + Call of Duty Modern Warefare 2 - Retail
1 in stock
1
£179.56 £179.56

That all looks very nice, my friend. :thumbs:

As PC Noob says, the HD 5830 is a poor card for a steepish £200 with only 16 ROPs enabled, and a goodish Sapphire branded Hd 5750 or HD 5770 is probably a better buy with the crossfire option for later.

I'd seriously doubt whether a 400W supply is enough with the power hungry HD 5830 and an i5 750 though. :xsmile:

I had a delve with Xigmatek supplies recently:

The £44 Xigmatek 500W (Made by HEC, I believe) on offer at Novatech is a 37A PCIE 6 pin and PCIE 6+2 pin unit with a 4+4 pin ATX/EPP type CPU connector. Look a real contender at a genuine 500W and 85% efficiency. Sort of thing you'd want with a GTX260 or HD4870.

The £54 600W unit is 42A, and a bit of an oddity with 2X 6 pin and apparently 2X 6+2 pin. You'd need to do your power sums on that one, and it's not an overclocker, but Corsair VX550W territory. Might just scrape a couple of HD 5770 cards crossfired.

The £62 700W unit is a much better 54A with apparently the same connectors as the 600W unit. That puts it in Corsair TX650W territory, but Corsair only fit 2X 6+2 pin GPU connectors. One for the overclockers, I'd say.

[mozzchops]

The power supply I put down was

OCZ StealthXStream 600w Silent SLI Ready ATX2 Power Supply
50+ in stock
1
£47.65 £47.65

Surely 600 Watts is enough or is it not as simples.

[system7]

The power supply I put down was

OCZ StealthXStream 600w Silent SLI Ready ATX2 Power Supply
50+ in stock
1
£47.65 £47.65

Surely 600 Watts is enough or is it not as simples.

Yeah, I know you did. The OCZ 600W is fine and has two GPU connectors. I was referring to PC Noob's talk of a (30A) 400W. That would be too skimpy for you. :xsmile: