i7 Video Editing Rig for about a grand max.

[smifis]

I've been set with the challenge of building an i7 video editing rig, not gaming, video editing. Basically, it's just raw editing power.

what do you think?


NZXT Hush Black Silent Case
Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz Socket 1366 D0 stepping 8MB Cache OEM Processor
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
Crucial 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 Ballistix Memory
Scythe Mugen 2
Huntkey X7 900W Modular PSU - 80plus Silver Certified 7x SATA 4x PCI-E
PNY NVIDIA Quadro FX 370 256MB DDR2 Dual DVI HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card
2 x Seagate ST3160318AS 160GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 8MB Cache - OEM (Boot - in Raid for speed - will give you 320GB)
Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache - OEM (Storage)
LiteOn IHAS124-19 24x DVD±RW SATA DL & RAM Internal SATA Black Bare Drive

[f12f12]

is there any need for a quadro graphics card? like i though that was for 3d modelling surely a geforce card would play video how you want?

[smifis]

heheheh thought that might come up.

He is going to be using Adobe Premiere Pro. The next version comes out in april (? - soon anyway) and has support for cuda rendering, encoding, and decoding. it's been the buzz of the century in the video editing world. anyway, adobe being as evil as they are, decided "ahh! i know! we can limit the cuda advantages to quadro cards" so here i am :)

Anyway, the quadro cheeper that the cheapest dual dvi head nvidia card :L

[f12f12]

isn't there some geforce card that you can flash to quatro?

that FX370 *is* the same as a 8400 gs

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/Components/Graphics-Nvidia/Nvidia8000Series/Novatech/8400GS256MBPCI-ESILENT.html

£87 saving any one?


FX 370 -------- G84 -------- 8600
FX 570 -------- G84 -------- 8600
FX 1700 ------- G84 -------- 8600
FX 4600 ------- G80 -------- 8800
FX 5600 ------- G80 -------- 8800

FX 370LP ------ G98 -------- GT100
FX 380 -------- G96 -------- 9500
FX 580 -------- G96 -------- 9500
FX 1800 ------- G94 -------- 9600
FX 2700 ------- G92 -------- 9800
FX 3700 ------- G92 -------- 9800

FX 3800 ------- GT200-192 -- GTX260-192
FX 4800 ------- GT200-192 -- GTX260-192
FX 5800 ------- GT200-240 -- GTX285

[Hayling Laser Sailor]

I would get a better power pack, it would be worth looking around and investing in a good branded PSU. I dont know how the one listed performs but you would be safter getting corsair or similar plus they have a massive warrently on corsair modular PSUs.

Also if it is for video editing might be worth investing in a blu ray burner to save the edited videos to a blue ray disc (Just a thought).

Might also be worth going for the i7 930 for the little extra cost involved

But everything else looks alright

[smifis]

What I'm planning on doing is overclocking this to about 3.8ghz, would the cooler be okay?

blu-ray is meh, if he wants it, he can pay the premium.

what psu would you recommend? i'm never any good at choosing those.

[Lorem-Ipsum]

I would go for http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/Components/PowerSupplies/Corsair/CMPSU-750HXUK.html PSU wise.

[smifis]

how about this? http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/Components/PowerSupplies/Coolermaster/RS700-AMBA-D3.html

[Lorem-Ipsum]

Thats good as well. The corsair is slightly better but only go for what you need with a small ammount of room for future upgrades.

[smifis]

Slightly better in what way?

[bezza]

2 x Seagate ST3160318AS 160GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 8MB Cache - OEM (Boot - in Raid for speed - will give you 320GB)


I'd change those for these:

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/Components/HardDrives-Internal/SATA250GBto320GB/Samsung/HD322HJ.html

For an extra £10 you're getting twice as much storage, a faster drive and lower seek times.

[f12f12]

seriously consider soft modding a geforce card instead of buying a quadro. and tbh if your going to even try and use it for cuda then you should just stick with your i7.

and another point if your going for cpu then get a i7 and small graphics card - if your going for graphics and cuda get a smaller cpu.

[smifis]

Hmmm.

Change of hard drive and soft modding it is :)

what dual DVI nVidia cards are out there?

[f12f12]

Hmmm.

Change of hard drive and soft modding it is :)

what dual DVI nVidia cards are out there?

look at a 9800gt or gt250 there cheap and have allot of power inside

[smifis]

I've actually just been looking at the PNY GTS250, I'm sorcing products all over the place at the minuet.

Do you reckon kpkpkp would do a deal with me?

[f12f12]

I've actually just been looking at the PNY GTS250, I'm sorcing products all over the place at the minuet.

Do you reckon kpkpkp would do a deal with me?

not harm in asking

EDIT: oh and you need to check if the card can be modded ;)

[smifis]

Okay so I've sent an email of to Geoff from the sales department and sent a PM of to kpkpkp.

I've also changed the rig slightly


NZXT Hush Black Silent Case
Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz Socket 1366 D0 stepping 8MB Cache OEM Processor
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
Crucial 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 Ballistix Memory
Prolimatech Megahalems Super 6 Heatpipe Tower Cooler for 775/1366 (Fanless)
2x 120mm fans for Prolimatech Megahalems cooler.
OCZ GameXStream 850W PSU - Silent 120mm Blue LED Fan 2x PCI-E 6x SATA
NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250
2 x Seagate ST3160318AS 160GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 8MB Cache - OEM (Boot - in Raid for speed - will give you 320GB)
Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache - OEM (Storage)
LiteOn IHAS124-19 24x DVD±RW SATA DL & RAM Internal SATA Black Bare Drive
- Any DVD Re-writer would do
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - Licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit - English


Fingers crossed.

[f12f12]

most people will recommend you get a retail of win 7 rather than the oem as it makes it very difficult to upgrade.

[bezza]

2 x Seagate ST3160318AS 160GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 8MB Cache - OEM (Boot - in Raid for speed - will give you 320GB)

See post 11 for some inspired advice :p ;)

[A Ginger Sheep]

he doesn't have to have such a powerful psu btw. a 500w branded psu would be adequate. and get rid of those stupid Seagate drives for a 500gb f3 or 2.

[smifis]

The boot drive doesnt need to be anything spectacular and i dont know what the drive mentioned was in post 11, It didn't say.

500w, this needs to be open for upgradeable as much as possible.

There's no doubt that within 2 years it will have an extra 3 hard drives, a 2nd graphics card and a blu-ray writer.

[A Ginger Sheep]

well find out what gfx card he is getting and find out its power draw so you have a better idea of what he needs. and if you are going to end up with about 5 hdds then dont buy two **** ones now, buy good hdds such as the samsung f3's. get a couple of them and you will be fine.

[smifis]

Video editing is quite picky and generally have a very specific hard drive requirements.

I think I'm going to use WD Caviar Blue drives in Raid 0 for boot and a 1TB Samsung F3 for the video,

Eventually, there will be a scratch disk and a disk dedicated to the page file.

Ideally, for video editing, you need.
Raid 0 for OS or SSD,
Raid 5 with 4 or more 500gb disks for Rushes
Raid 0+1 with 2TB for Masters
3x single 320gb drive for video scratch, audio scratch, and page file.

It all adds up, and that goes over the budget.

[A Ginger Sheep]

ok but my point is you are buying poor drives and your just wasting money. instead of getting them wd blues get the samsungs they offer the same performance as the wd cavier blacks but with a smaller price tag.

[smifis]

Oh, i didn't see what you were getting at. I've had too many Samsung hard drives fail on me, I'll give them another go, my latest is a samsung and its not bad, quieter then my Wd Black.

What would be faster?

A single 500GB Samsung F3
2 Samsung F1's in Raid 0
2 cheap drives in raid 0

The smaller Samsung hard drives seams to have suddenly came hard to get hold of

Sorry for being such a pain

[cje]

If you're worried about data redundancy, then RAID 0 is not the way to go really. If one of the drives fail, you lose all the data.

Therefore out of the choices you mentioned I'd say Samsung F3 by a mile. It is really really fast, come in large capacities, and only a single drive, no RAIDing needed.

[smifis]

Not worried at all for the boot drive :)

boot drive should be nothing but speed.

Same goes for the scratch disks.

The disk that will have the footage needs to have good read speeds and the masters disk needs redundancy.

[cje]

How about a relatively small SSD for boot.

Then RAID 1 Sammy F3's for the storage drives. Speed and data redundancy.

[smifis]

That was my plan initially, but this got me over budget.

Two Samsungs in raid would coast about £70 max, where as a SSD would costg over £100. If novatech could do me a deal on the parts then maybe it would fit in the budget but i'm not sure.

Wouldn't Raid 5 be sufficient for redundancy whilst increasing read speed?

[bezza]

The boot drive doesnt need to be anything spectacular and i dont know what the drive mentioned was in post 11, It didn't say.

Doh, they're not stocked anymore so the link bust.

Anyway, was some Samsung Spinpoints so much the same as everyone is saying here..... :)

[smifis]

I guested, i search the code at the end and it just happened to be the code samsung uses for the drive.

They seam to be hard to get hold of in the uk for some reason. Any ideas?