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system7
19-12-2010, 12:29 AM
I have a feeling this is going to eat expensive hardware for breakfast! :eek:

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But quite impressive.

I3R0K3N7FEET
19-12-2010, 02:50 AM
good post not seen this trailer till now :D

randommagik6
19-12-2010, 10:43 AM
oh lord what hardware will we need to run this on high :D

wuyanxu
19-12-2010, 11:53 AM
oh lord what hardware will we need to run this on high :D
overclocked gtx580 :D

but textures, at 720p youtube resolution, don't seem any sharper than Crysis. probably due to consolification. which is a huge shame on pushing video memory boundaries. (and make those 2GB Radeon's finally worth buying over nvidia competing cards)

system7
19-12-2010, 01:23 PM
overclocked gtx580 :D

but textures, at 720p youtube resolution, don't seem any sharper than Crysis. probably due to consolification. which is a huge shame on pushing video memory boundaries. (and make those 2GB Radeon's finally worth buying over nvidia competing cards)

Ooh, some faint praise for AMD, eh, wuyanxu? I've got good eyesight to spot that! :D

Looks to me like nothing current will run it at Highest, if Crytek 3 stays true to form. :eek:

wuyanxu
19-12-2010, 02:12 PM
being a consolified game, and hardly any improvement over original Crysis in terms of graphics. i'd actually expect this one to be less demanding.

how did you spot that :o :D

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Huge Pear
19-12-2010, 05:28 PM
I soooooooooo want it!!!

I3R0K3N7FEET
19-12-2010, 07:23 PM
the cryengine 3 is said to be 'future proof' there is no hardware out right now that can run it to its fullest.

it is an evolved engine that allows it to run optimally on any platform or hardware be it the consoles or the PC. the released videos are of the consoles ONLY afaik.

they have kept the performance side underwraps and the engine can take full advantage of multi cored cpu and multi gpu technology and i am pretty sure that you will see very heavy tessellation and DX11 support.

Wrex
19-12-2010, 09:23 PM
If the 360 and PS3 can run it then PC shouldn't have a problem.

Wrex
19-12-2010, 09:27 PM
Do you think that trailer was made using a PC or console? ;)

Asce
19-12-2010, 10:08 PM
Console. The PC version will be much better than the console version

wuyanxu
19-12-2010, 10:22 PM
they have kept the performance side underwraps and the engine can take full advantage of multi cored cpu and multi gpu technology and i am pretty sure that you will see very heavy tessellation and DX11 support.

i remember hearing the same thing on crysis 1 launch. never happened. won't believe anything they say until the final game's release.

I3R0K3N7FEET
19-12-2010, 10:25 PM
how else would they have got it working on the consoles~?

that video would have been made using a long winded rendering method no doubt.

well if cryteks words are to believed

Crysis 2 will see good frame rates and good visuals no matter what hardware you are running

with progressively demanding eyecandy to run on more powrful machines.

mcginty13
05-01-2011, 03:41 PM
oh lord what hardware will we need to run this on high :D

A PS3 :p
Apparently the PS3 version runs "slightly better" than 360. That's rare!
Obv PC will be far superior to either

I3R0K3N7FEET
05-01-2011, 10:07 PM
oh god, apparently anyone saying anything like that are also real life mermaids and have potatos for hands...

seriously the cryengine 3 allows optimisations perfectly for all platforms. there is no better or worse when it comes to the consoles...

mcginty13
06-01-2011, 03:58 PM
But Crytek said so... http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=242728

I3R0K3N7FEET
06-01-2011, 04:51 PM
fair enough :)

system7
16-01-2011, 04:36 PM
Just looking at that trailer, it looks like DX11 transparency and tessellation is being used, so I'd assume it was made on a PC. Console graphics are currently around 7600GT level on XBox 360, with some DX10 features on the slightly better ATI chipped PS3. I don't think a console could have created that trailer. :)

Looks like Crysis 2 will be a TWIMTBP tessellation and physics monster, optimised for GTX 580 or thereabouts:
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/faith/crysis-2-being-re-designed-for-gtx580-expect-delays/

In fact, bundling it with NVidia cards might be the plan:

KitGuru says: The STONE COLD KILLER move here would be to bundle Crysis 2 with nVidia cards sold in Q2 next year. No matter what AMD’s product stack looks like, it would be hard to resist buying an nVidia card and getting the full version of a Triple-A game just as it launches. When ATI included Half Life 2 with the original 9600/9800 cards, those cards topped the Steam Powered Stats Survey almost immediately. Fingers crossed that Jen Hsun is planning on giving all the nVidia fans out there a second Christmas in 2011.

Still prefer FarCry to Crysis by a huge margin though. :D

Martini1991
16-01-2011, 07:28 PM
The 360 is ATI gpu, PS3 is Nvidia.

system7
16-01-2011, 08:04 PM
The 360 is ATI gpu, PS3 is Nvidia.

Quite right, m8! I got that ***-about...:)

Graphically, both Sony and Microsoft raised the bar significantly from previous generations. While nVidia provided Sony with a chip similar to the DX9 7600GT card (which today would have graphics performance similar to a GT220 for £30), Microsoft went with an R600 derivative from ATI called the Xenos. Performance is close to a Radeon HD 1900, but with DX10 features from the R600. Both choices have worked out well and game sales for both consoles are good.

http://www.kitguru.net/software/gaming/jules/microsoft-chooses-amd-fusion-ii-for-xbox-720/

A Ginger Sheep
17-01-2011, 12:14 AM
crysis 2 looks simply stunning imo and cant wait for it to be released however im slightly annoyed that i know im going to have to play this on medium settings tops tho as there will be no point upgrading my pc as im going to uni next year and it'll be sat gathering dust :(

wuyanxu
17-01-2011, 10:29 AM
Looks like Crysis 2 will be a TWIMTBP tessellation and physics monster, optimised for GTX 580 or thereabouts:
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/faith/crysis-2-being-re-designed-for-gtx580-expect-delays/

:D

if it needs more time to make it run better, im all for it :P

but it's a shame people will automatically disregard any game that has TWIMTBP as a biased benchmark tool. developers need support, nvidia provides it, it is perfectly reasonable for the game to be optimised for nvidia cards. if AMD bothered, then it's perfectly reasonable for the game to be optimised for ATI cards. i found it funny that AvP and Dirt 2 were ATI launch titles, but it is still used in today's benchmarks and no one speaks a peep about those games are supported by AMD, while TWIMTBP gets a lot of negative press.

I3R0K3N7FEET
18-01-2011, 12:00 PM
lol youre such a fanboi :P

AMD GAMING EVOLVED?
AMD GAMING MANIFESTO?

all this stuff wont see results till later this year anyway, AMD are investing HUGE amounts of money in gaming, developers and support. bit late to the table but thats no excuse to make unfounded claims :P

Nvidias bias makes any TWIMTBP game invalid as a benchmark by what you are saying.

EG im loving how Nvidia are sticking with vantage benchmarks rather than 3Dmark11.

wuyanxu
18-01-2011, 02:12 PM
"unfounded claims", where? all i said was that there is no actual advantages on a game with AMD's branding on it. and suggested that if nVidia supported games are disregarded as benchmark material, so should AMD's. (why are AvP, Dirt 2 and BFBC2 being used as benchmark then? )

Vantage or 11, it's all same low resolution benchmarks, nothing representative of real world gaming. great for getting a figure to see how much performance you got from overclocking (cos it's consistent), useless for everything else.

if a company can convince a game developer to optimise for their hardware at cost of other half of the market, it's entirely developer's decision. we, as customers, should only be concern about which product gives us the smoothest experience. the politics behind this is as useful to us as meat to vegetarians. (who talks a lot about animal rights, even though it doesn't concern them)




sorry for being an nvidia fanboy, despite owning about 3/4 split between two brands. but my experience were that the 3 ATI cards were horrible (lack of SM3, stuttering) while the 4 nvidia cards felt like best purchase of the whole computer. and to further enforce your idea of nvidia fanboy, i shall say it is just so much smoother on nvidia cards compared to ATI cards. let me see.... anything else i can add while i am under this banner...... oh yeah, 6000 series was a fail, hugely devalued 5870 while adding almost zero improvements. (another thing made me regret buying AMD 5870) finally, at the end of the day, you get what you pay, you pay more for a Golf, and you can sell them more expensive later on, you pay for an nVidia card, so you can sell them more expensive later on (eg, gtx 260 for £100 on forums when 4870 were selling £80 on the bay)
(sorry about the rant, it's great to get it out of my system. especially my hate for 6000 for which it made a £220 worth card devalue to £160, even though it's performance is still at £220 level)

system7
19-01-2011, 04:11 AM
No need to worry about TWIMTBP games (er, Hawx2 and Crysis 2...) being deliberateley borked on AMD it seems...:D


The Catalyst Control Center includes an early prototype of some new tessellation controls. Our goal is to give users full control over the tessellation levels used in applications. The default selection "AMD Optimized" setting allows AMD, on a per application basis, to set the best level of tessellation. The intention is to help users get the maximum visual benefit of Tessellation, while minimizing the impact on performance. Currently no applications have been profiled, so the "AMD Optimized" setting will be non-operational until further notice.

The "Use Application Settings" option gives applications full control over the Tessellation level. Users can also manually set the maximum tessellation level used by applications with the slider control

The long term goal for the "AMD Optimized" setting is to use the Catalyst Application Profile mechanism to control the AMD recommended level of tessellation on a per application basis. AMD’s intention is to set the tessellation level such that we will not be reducing image quality in any way that would negatively impact the gaming experience.
http://www.hardocp.com/news/2011/01/18/amd_catalyst_111a_hotfix_driver_information

Nice! :thumbs:

wuyanxu
19-01-2011, 10:36 AM
i wonder if it's going to have different "optimisation" profiles for different cards. 5870 automatically limit to half tessellation compared to 6970 seems reasonable. or are they just covering their backside for their latest and greatest card, then make 5870 users upgrade?

at the end of the day, all i hear is complain from AMD. might as well get it over with and put in more tessellation units, or are they going to rip off customers by generations: to play 2012's game with tessellation, user will have to upgrade to southern islands.

Decibel
02-03-2011, 12:55 PM
I have a feeling this is going to eat expensive hardware for breakfast! :eek:

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But quite impressive.OMG!! Amazing. "i am not unstoppable but i m the last hope! Wow!!I love the trailer and his voice !!!.

Can i play it with ROG extreme III and quad Q8300 Novatech ATI Radeon 5750 1024MB GDDR5? I was thinking to upgrade to these specsxxx Thx Steve
Regards D

wuyanxu
02-03-2011, 03:34 PM
any graphics card in the past 2 years will be able to play this pile of consolfied poo Crysis 2 without any problem.

randommagik6
02-03-2011, 07:43 PM
Yeah, I just played 1920x1080 on Hardcore graphics with 45fps, Ran mighty fine :D

I don't like the game itself cause I find the gameplay to be ****, but yeah, graphics are nice

@Decibel you should be able to, 5750 = 450 equivalent-ish, okay maybe a bit worse but not that much, still able to run on 1080p settings with hardcore atleast 30fps

Decibel
02-03-2011, 08:19 PM
Yeah, I just played 1920x1080 on Hardcore graphics with 45fps, Ran mighty fine :D

I don't like the game itself cause I find the gameplay to be ****, but yeah, graphics are nice

@Decibel you should be able to, 5750 = 450 equivalent-ish, okay maybe a bit worse but not that much, still able to run on 1080p settings with hardcore atleast 30fpsThanks randommagik6, i want to upgrade everything from my mobo to muy OS, i will take a while to get all the pieces but it is worth it..Cheers matexxxx I am playing the saboteur i needed a patch to play with Ati graphic but run beautifully...Great gamexxx

Butterz
02-03-2011, 10:26 PM
I'm getting a dll error related to DirectX... I think its Crysisinput.ddl error code 138. Ive tried turning off AV and installing. I have also re-installed DirectX with no avail. Does anyone has any suggestions? Really don't want to reinstall windows/steam to get this to work :(.

I3R0K3N7FEET
05-03-2011, 06:09 AM
oh hgod..the demo is terrible imo :/