8800GT's!

[djgandy]

http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=8800 ... ucts&hl=en (http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=8800GT&btnG=Search+Products&hl=en)

mmmmmm loving the price :D

[Jonny2Bad]

Is that the card they reckon is nearly as good as the gtx? or just as good as the 640mb gts?

[Jonny2Bad]

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=197629
Well if thats anything to go by then wow yes £140 an nearly as good as a gtx gonna make the gtx price fall like a cannon ball surely lol

[Ben]

I've read speculation they're re-releasing the higher end cards with newer specs. But haven't seen anything definite.

[djgandy]

Higher end cards are coming. There is a rumor that they are going to be released with crysis. That's a huge rumor though.

However the general consensus is they are due in the new year jan/feb.

[Jonny2Bad]

Jeez anything more powerful will only be noticable on 30" monitors and 3dmark surely lol

[JDowdall]

yeah they should really really concentrate on taking cards lyk the 8800 gtx and making them smaller cooler and take less power instead of giving us power we dont really need

[Jonny2Bad]

Well i think thats what theyve done with the 8800gt, well we'll see what its like!!

[Taxation]

sorry to rain on your parade (always wanted to say that) but
follow that link and you will find this

Xfx Nvidia Pci-E 8800Gt 256Mb Ddr3 Tv 2 Xdvi 2560X1600
NV-8600GT-256-*** PCI EXPRES [XFX] £86.37


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its not an 8800gt as it is advertised, its actually a 8600gt

[djgandy]

Not talking about that one, the second link is the 8800GT.

[Taxation]

fair point, and that is a good price
i may have to ditch my 1950xt radiator and get this radiator instead

[teknokid]

LOL, well the new radiator over heats apparently, nvidia obviously tried too hard to make the cooler small.
anyway, yeah very impresive price, it almost scores the same as a gtx in 3d mark etc, and overclocks well with a better cooler because of the smaller die size

[Jonny2Bad]

I might get 1 at that price and give my 8800gts to my son so he can run sli heh at that price i might get 2 and sli them too lol

[teknokid]

haha, cheaky, you'd have to get the 1gb versions really, otherwise they might be slower than your gts, im not sure.
i know there is meant to be 256, 512 and 1gb versions of the card, not sure which was used for the benchmarks ive seen.

[PulpzillA]

when are novatech getting them in? for tomorrow?

[Taxation]

1GB cards are too overhyped, a 512mb version would be perfect, even though, my system still keeps up with all games currently out, seeing that my TV only goes to 1280*768, it breezes through :D
Still would like to upgrade though, something about getting new hardware :wink:

[Jonny2Bad]

Yes at that price it's really affordable upgrade and for so much power!!!

[PulpzillA]

so apperently its out today! where would i be able to buy one?

[Jonny2Bad]

found them on ebay already!! £156 for the 512mb

[djgandy]

I'm bored at uni and want to pickup one of these.

[Jonny2Bad]

Probably not worth it tbh gotta come from china they'll be out here by the time it gets here lol

[djgandy]

Probably not worth it tbh gotta come from china they'll be out here by the time it gets here lol

Nah I meant I want to pickup one from novatech

[Jonny2Bad]

They arent in novatech yet are they?

[djgandy]

Nope, I'm hoping they get them soon though, just setup a lan between 3 houses :P

[djgandy]

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... ?BFG-88GT5 (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?BFG-88GT5)

[Jonny2Bad]

It says none in stock buddy!!

[djgandy]

It says none in stock buddy!!

I know! But they are listed!

[Jonny2Bad]

sorry missed 1 of your posts on a completely different track lol!!

[PulpzillA]

will there be any other variants of the 8800GT apart from the BFG? any chance of a novatech branded one?

[Jonny2Bad]

i would have thought so but you might have to wait for it and i bet it want be much cheaper than the bfg, its already cheaper than a gts buddy!!

[PulpzillA]

meh i want something cheap! lik £125 max

[Jonny2Bad]

Well the 256mb will be around that price i reckon so you'll be ok

[PulpzillA]

would that be as good as the 8800GTS 320mb?

[Taxation]

i would say , at the beginning, no, but as soon as they bring a couple of different driver versions out, you'll be set, its definately a brilliant card to get, if you have the money, go for it

[Jonny2Bad]

i'd say if your runnning at normal resolutions then yes it'll be loads better than the 320gts but these are just guesses really until they are released!!

[PulpzillA]

well the max resolution i would be using would be 1280 x 1024 so you'd recommend getting the 256mb version rather than the 512mb?

[Jonny2Bad]

No i would still say get the 512 as some games are more memory hungry than others, but if its not within your budget then the 256 would still be a very good gard to have running in your system!!

[Jonny2Bad]

They are in stock at tekheads gigabyte version!! £176

[Jonny2Bad]

And novatech due tomorrow and today lol mmmm can feel the waves of excitment from here!!!

[djgandy]

There's an asus one in stock. Ordering!
Only problem is my power supply might not cut it.

[JDowdall]

lol wat psu u got?

[djgandy]

Hiper 350 Watt. It will be fine methinks. Might get the multi meter out tonight and see how much draw my current system takes.

[JDowdall]

mite b ok

[Jonny2Bad]

It might struggle i reckon, 450 or 470w will be more suited to that sort of gpu i think nvidia say 550w at the least!!!!

[djgandy]

It might struggle i reckon, 450 or 470w will be more suited to that sort of gpu i think nvidia say 550w at the least!!!!

Well considering my 6600 is around 75 watt that would put a 8800 at 175-275watt which it definately is not. Maybe in the P4 EE 965 days you'd need a huge power supply but components have dropped a lot in energy consumption.

Even on toms hardware with a quad they arent even using 350watt.

[Jonny2Bad]

These cards do suck up power though, well try it and see put it this way when i got my 7900gts 512 my hiper 430w didnt take to it very kindly and had to upgrade but heh nvidia could be wrong i guess lol!! Let us know how u get on?

[Jonny2Bad]

I think the real point is that you'll be running your psu at absolute max which means loads more heat and really shortening the life of your psu when under heavy loads such as gaming etc, be a good idea to upgrade your psu!!

[Jonny2Bad]

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/NVIDIA-Ge ... 719-4.html (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/NVIDIA-GeForce-8800-GT-G92,review-29719-4.html)
Tom hardware are using a 530w on their test rig!!

[djgandy]

They'll always use a large psu though. Look at the consumption figures. No where near 350..

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/NVIDIA-Ge ... 719-9.html (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/NVIDIA-GeForce-8800-GT-G92,review-29719-9.html)

Also best bit for me will be seeing how it performs in my PCI-E 4x slot ;)

[Jonny2Bad]

Well i think your psu will pop if after some good hard gaming try it and see m8 will be interesting if it does hold up, no need to buy high watt psu's if it works!!

[djgandy]

Well i think your psu will pop if after some good hard gaming try it and see m8 will be interesting if it does hold up, no need to buy high watt psu's if it works!!

I could try some dual screen supreme commander. That'll give it a hammering.

[Jonny2Bad]

Lol have a spare psu at hand then if i was u!!! I think your being pretty hopeful though!! Honestly every1 i know who has a high or midranged gpu has a decent psu to match the consumption on the chart u pointes out was 247 under load if you think your psu can handle that for a couple of hours hard gaming then go for it!!

[djgandy]

Well once Yorkfield is out I'll most likely be picking up a P35 board and a few gigs of ballistix + new psu and probably a new case, so it's not really a problem if it doesn't work.

Will need a big PSU then since overclocking will put the CPU up in the 120watt range.

[Lustral]

Personally i cant wait for these to come into out warehouse ... :)

Even im tempted to get one of these cards , thats coming from an ATI side for all these years ... i have seen the benchies that show it can beat a 2900XT in most if not all benchmarks.

For the price they are absolute bargain ! Get 2 and ull be playing Crysis in High detail and good res without a problem at all.

Lusty

[Jonny2Bad]

Personally i cant wait for these to come into out warehouse ... :)

Even im tempted to get one of these cards , thats coming from an ATI side for all these years ... i have seen the benchies that show it can beat a 2900XT in most if not all benchmarks.

For the price they are absolute bargain ! Get 2 and ull be playing Crysis in High detail and good res without a problem at all.

Lusty
Thats what im talking about 2 of them in sli for the same price as a gtx all the firepower you'll need for a good while

[djgandy]

Meh, never mind SLI. Get a yorkfield with a good cooler and hit 4.5ghz on air :D

[teknokid]

i should think it will work, but you will be stressing your psu quite a lot

[PulpzillA]

is a 550W psu good enough?

[Jonny2Bad]

If its a branded 1! Yes plenty dont go for the novatech own brand!!!!!

[djgandy]

i should think it will work, but you will be stressing your psu quite a lot

Arggg. Mine is the older model with only 22A on the 12V. Oh well order new psu time. It won't let you run the card without the aux power either. Makes a really loud beeping noise.

[Jonny2Bad]

Hate to say it lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But i did try and tell ya!!!

[djgandy]

Hate to say it lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But i did try and tell ya!!!

It's nothing to do with watts. Its the amps on the 12v. The new 350 watt hipers have enough, but then i looked at the label on mine and it's a lot less.

[Jonny2Bad]

So its not powerful enough to run it!!! Watts or not I said it wouldnt run it dont be so picky lol!!!

[djgandy]

I hope it is the PSU tbh, ballistix isnt on offer at the moment, so I don't want to have to get my P35 yet :( Just read the side of the box and it requires 26A on the 12v which is quite a bit. EVGA one was only 24A I think.

Could try this corsair one?
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... ?CSR-VX450 (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?CSR-VX450)
Got 33A on the 12v

[djgandy]

So its not powerful enough to run it!!! Watts or not I said it wouldnt run it dont be so picky lol!!!

The ones in stock at novatech atm would though :P Mine sa 3S though not a 4. All new psus have more on the 12v rail. Mine has huge 3v output for some reason.

[Jonny2Bad]

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... l?TT-W0101 (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?TT-W0101)
For an extra £3 get extra power!!

[djgandy]

It'll have the be the 500w version since my dad is right by by refresh and wont go to novatech.

[Jonny2Bad]

They are the same price get the 550!!!!

[djgandy]

Hah now hes changed his mind. Let's see.

I want a really quiet one. Preferably modular. I take it the TR2 cable management is the TR2 + modular. My case is a cable nightmare

[djgandy]

They are the same price get the 550!!!!

Yeah, but the shop my dad was going to go to didn't have the 550.

[Jonny2Bad]

Ah right its only £43 in nova for both i know you want to use your card tonight though dont you lol!!

[djgandy]

The psu might be the least of my problems. The card blocks the primary ATA port! It can go down but not quite far enough for the PCi-E lock to go over it.
Plus I'm going to have to remove some hard drive fans. Might get some 5 1/4inch hotswap bays so I can put them up and out of the way.

[nrmsmith]

I'm thinking of upgrading the graphics card in my Novatech barebones system (qith a Q6600 quad chip). It has a Hiper 5M530 (530 Watt) PSU in it - would this be adequate to drive the new BFG NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT card?

Thanks
NigelS

[teknokid]

noo. lol. myns the same, if you wait a month which i doubt you will ill be selling my psu

[djgandy]

omg novatech closed at 5 for a stock take!
Oh well pub it is then.

[Jonny2Bad]

I'm thinking of upgrading the graphics card in my Novatech*barebones ('http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/products/a789x1y0z1p0s0n0m0') system (qith a Q6600 quad chip). It has a Hiper 5M530 (530 Watt) PSU in it - would this be adequate to drive the new BFG NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT card?

Thanks
NigelS
Yes that will be fine!!

[teknokid]

lol, goin out for a pint?

[PulpzillA]

its halloween shouldnt you lot be trickle treating :wink:

[teknokid]

me? noo, far too busy on crysis :D

[djgandy]

New PSU, card still doesn't work. Must be mobo or card.

Tried booting with AGP and PCI-E, nothing.

Told you It wouldn't need 26Amps to POST :P

[teknokid]

ooh, errr cant help you there sorry.
thats very strange

[PulpzillA]

ooo ive seen the list of 8800GTs that is up on the website. do you know when they will be in stock? i might wait till xmas when there will be a price crash.

[teknokid]

not nescaserily... prices will probs stay as they are

[Jonny2Bad]

Jeez crash from £175 you'll be lucky never gonna happen!!!

[Taxation]

its halloween shouldnt you lot be trickle treating :wink:

i thought it was
trick OR treating

or is that just me :roll:

[nrmsmith]

Could someone who has this BFG 8800GT card, please advise how long it is (in cm)?

Thank you
NigelS

[Jonny2Bad]

Its 9" long whatever that works out in cm!!

[Jleagle]

9 inches = 22.86 centimeters (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=9+inches+in+cm&btnG=Google+Search&meta=)

[PulpzillA]

do you think the 8800GT 512mb will be around the £125 mark by xmas time?

[JDowdall]

Probably not lowest will probs be £150 more lyk £160 with the 256 probs 10-15 quid below it nd that aint that big a card my x1950 is 9"!

[teknokid]

lol, it wont come down by much, no way to £125. Maybe £160, at a push

[Jonny2Bad]

£125 not a chance buddy the 8800gts might go a lot cheaper but the 320mb is gonna be phased out so it'll only be the 640mb available and lets face it why would u bother!!

[Taxation]

nvidia are revamping the 8800gts to make it better than the 8800gt





apparantly

[Jonny2Bad]

Well thats just dandy isnt it lol god like yousaid on another thread m8 there is something about new hardware!! And we all want it

[teknokid]

yup lol, even i want one and i got a faster card in the 1st place.
I bet they overclock nicely being a smaller core as well.
yeah, theres a new gts coming soon :D

[PulpzillA]

im gonna have to ask extra nice to santa this year then :wink:

[teknokid]

lol, yup, write a nice long list of 8800gt.... and a smilie

[Jonny2Bad]

Tut wish santa still visited me lol

[Jleagle]

What's the difference between the over clocked GTs and normal ones? are they much faster or not noticeable? do they run alot hotter?

[Jonny2Bad]

No they are faster and will give you a few extra frames per second and wont run that much hotter

[teknokid]

just use a program like ati tool and do it yourself, or flash its bios,

[Jleagle]

So would it be better to get one with a faster core, as they are the same price?

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... ?BFG-88GT5 (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?BFG-88GT5)
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... ?ASU-88GT5 (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-88GT5)

[Jonny2Bad]

Yes definatlely

[DoctorJellybean]

So would it be better to get one with a faster core, as they are the same price?

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... ?BFG-88GT5 (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?BFG-88GT5)
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... ?ASU-88GT5 (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-88GT5)

Except these don't appear to be in stock :shock:

[Jleagle]

So would it be better to get one with a faster core, as they are the same price?

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... ?BFG-88GT5 (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?BFG-88GT5)
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... ?ASU-88GT5 (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-88GT5)

Except these don't appear to be in stock :shock:

im in no rush to buy one, du think they will have any in stock before 2008?

[DoctorJellybean]

I'm getting the Novatech NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB, supposedly to be in stock tomorrow.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... ?NOV-88GT5 (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.jsp?NOV-88GT5)

And they are a few quid cheaper too.

[Jleagle]

Thats exactly the same card right?

Will these PCIE cards work on a AGP mobo? I dont have a PCIE mobo yet but i plan on buying one soon and i really want this new GPU lol.

[Jonny2Bad]

No they wont work on a agp mobo buddy better buy the mobo at the same time lol

[DoctorJellybean]

Expensive business this, upgrading lol

[Jonny2Bad]

And it never stops lol!!

[PulpzillA]

pci-e is going to be the standard for years to come! as i have only a 19inch screen is it worth getting the 512 version or the 256 version as i wont be going above 1280 x 1024.

[Jonny2Bad]

Yes because some games can really use the extra memory!!

[teknokid]

yup. especially with games getting more and more demanding

[djgandy]

do you think the 8800GT 512mb will be around the £125 mark by xmas time?

No, why would it be.

[JDowdall]

let the man hope! lol cos cheapness is good

[DoctorJellybean]

I can't see the price dropping myself, not with the current demand levels. I noticed Novatech is supposed to get some tomorrow, but only 31 :shock: I wonder if thats for back orders only, meaning I'll have to wait for the next shipment.

Hmm, I'll find out tomorrow.

[Ben]

One of these EVGA (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130302) cards at that price would be nice. :D

[Jonny2Bad]

No different than any of the others buddy!!

[Ben]

The clocks are pumped higher than any other I've seen, especially at <£155. :wink:

[Jonny2Bad]

Wont be long bfg will get close and it only the exchange rate that makes it so cheap

[Tharpe]

9800 series may be released the end of this month, and nvidia are working on GDDR5 ram.

its just annoying really isn't it! lol

[PulpzillA]

price = supply and demand! if they make to many for demand they will go down in price [i hope...] :wink:

[djgandy]

price = supply and demand! if they make to many for demand they will go down in price [i hope...] :wink:

Not in computers mate. This only happens when something in such high demand that retailers can charge what they like since they are lucky to have any stock. 7900's cost more than the 8800GT's. The price will drop when nvidia cut the price of the chips.

[teknokid]

evga are the best, they have the fastest cards and the best warranty

[Jleagle]

I think i might end up using XP so i wont have dx10, is this still the best card around, lets say if dx10 didn't exist?

[Jonny2Bad]

For the money yes m8!!

[Jleagle]

sorry i meant to say, for the money... thanks.

[Taxation]

wait until the xfx boards come out, they will be cheap as........ well, maybe not chips, but quite cheap

Im personally waiting for the new AMD/ATI cards

[PulpzillA]

anyone got one yet?

[Lustral]

wait until the xfx boards come out, they will be cheap as........ well, maybe not chips, but quite cheap

Im personally waiting for the new AMD/ATI cards

Im also awaiting the ATi Cards... the NDA should be lifted 2moro

But of course i had a look around , they perform a little better than the 2900XT with a lot less power required. 1 PCI-E 6 pin instead of the 2 x PCI-E needed on the 2900XT

Compared to the 8800GT they are a tad slower as well , but the price point should be for the top end HD3870XT is about £150-£165 inc VAT

Supply should be ample as they are ready to go once the NDA expired.

Lusty

[Jonny2Bad]

Any ideas on how they might perform against the like of the 8800gt?

[Lustral]

Mentioned in my last post that they are about 10% slower than the 8800GT but the price is a little cheaper as well.

There should be plenty around from today as the NDA is lifted , unlike the 8800GT which are gonna be in tight supply until Jan, hence prices on them are going up a bit.

Unless 8800GT prices drop down to the £130-£140 mark the 3870 is an excellent buy , albeit a little slower that the 8800GT but least u can get one easierly.

Lusty

[Jonny2Bad]

Yes defo m8 and a little slower than a gt is hardly anything to worry about and considering the choice of xfire intel mobo's there is right now i reckon that is the better choice until nvidia release a new chipset!!!

[djgandy]

A good choice is not to buy nvidia chipsets.

[Jonny2Bad]

And why is that?

[Taxation]

i may upgrade my machine and equip it with a 3870xt, but that all depends how my drinking weekend goes :wink:

[Jonny2Bad]

Lol well if you get 1 we'll know it was a **** weekend lol

[Taxation]

yea, probably will be, im the only one with money, so i'll probably save for the 24th :D weekend booze trip fo sho :wink:

[Jonny2Bad]

Dont go out then m8 as every1 wil spend your upgrade money for u lol!!

[Taxation]

lol, nah, im one of those that if no one else has money, then they dont get drinks from me
ive learnt from my mistakes :roll: