Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme

[matz]

Ive been hearing romours about this being the best cooler on the marker? i see it doesn't come with a fan and was wandering what would be the best! price is nothing as long as i get best performance and if possiable quiet ones can be good.

So what i would like to know is whats the best 120mm on the market for performance? and whats the best 120mm on the market for quiet and performance.

ive been thinking about the 120mm antec tricool blue and adjust the settings depending if im gaming or not but i would like advise.

Thank you
-matz

[PeteA]

Wait till wednesday when I get my new rig, i'm getting one of those.

When I build it i'll also do a review and do lots of pictures

[matz]

Wait till wednesday when I get my new rig, i'm getting one of those.

When I build it i'll also do a review and do lots of pictures

Thank you, but what fan are you actually gonna use?

[PeteA]

120mm fan Antec, (was with my old P180 case) 3 speed fan.

[matz]

oh klkl! what case will you be using now?

im still thinking if im gonna get antec 900 or P series im not quite sure.

[PeteA]

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g)
Asus DRW-2014L1T 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer Lightscribe ReWriter (Black/Silver) - Retail
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler (Socket AM2/LGA775)
Thermaltake ToughPower 750W Modular Power Supply
Thermaltake VA9003BWS Kandalf Full Tower - Black
Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR 95W Edition" 2.40GHz (1066FSB) - OEM
Asus Striker Extreme nForce 680 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
BFG GeForce 8800 GTX OC 768MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail
Corsair 4GB DDR2 XMS2 PC2-6400C5 TwinX (2x2GB)

That's the whole system. I already have HDD's

The reason for the large case is the massive GTX graphics card and lots of HDD/expansion space

[wuyanxu]

mine :lol:

that's "Antec Pro 120mm 3pin Double Ball Bearing Case Fan" (google that you'll see where i got it from)

get the highest CFM fan you can afford / tolerate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/wuyanxu/WyXQuad_BuildLog/DSC016601024x768.jpg

BTW, that's a 8800GTX in my case, p182 fits them fine.

[matz]

Is it good to get that case or antec nine hundred for cooling abilities?

[wuyanxu]

900 is, in fact, better than p182 when it comes to cooling.

but i went for p182 for the dust filters and quietness

[teknokid]

and imo the wuxnanyu's case looks nicer than a boy racer antec 900...

[matz]

wuyanxu wuyanxu

you know your thermal take ultra120 the fan that came with it is an Antec one, was this a DIY job connecting them together or was there a piece with the heatsink that can connect them both together? thanks

[PeteA]

If you mean the fan clips the heatsink comes with ones

[matz]

right so the heatsink comes with a clip that can clip your 120mm fan onto it. ok thats wicked!

[Jonny2Bad]

I see your getting a striker with a quad peteA are you planning to overclock the q6600?

[matz]

ive been hearing stories about Q6600 overclocking with striker, johnny is it good ?

[Jonny2Bad]

No terrible I wouldnt bother at all :( Loads of hassle the new 1305 bios wont budge it ffrom 2.4ghz at all, bad mix should have gone for the new 780i striker.

[matz]

any good P35 or SLI motherboards that overclocks q6600 with easY?

[Jonny2Bad]

The p35 goes hand in hand with the q6600 they should be married lol. The new 780i chipset should be better but not heard too much yet will wait and see. the asus p5k is 1 of the best and the foxconn p35ap-s is supposed to be 1 of the best for the money aned gives u the option for ddr3 also

[wuyanxu]

Asus P5K series' bios was really bad, i prefer Abit's uGuru BIOS for overclocking.

the cooler came with those clips, but only 1 set. the fan i bought myself, Antec case fan are Tri-cool (manual switch), while the fan i have on there is automatically controlled by the motherboard's 3-pin fan controller

[Jonny2Bad]

What was wrong with that bios (asus and their bios tut) :x

[teknokid]

780i is perhaps slightly better for quads, but basically its 680i with a pci-e 2 chip. Id wait for 790i which will be ddr3 and a whole new chip...

[matz]

well as i said i will be geting a new pc in mid feb ish and im wandering on what to get ;)

[Jonny2Bad]

Whats your budget? Do u need monitor and other bits also?

[matz]

im keeping my monitor and my hardrive with OS of vista nad xp

rufferely £500

[Jonny2Bad]

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... l?ASU-P5KC (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-P5KC)
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... ?IL-Q6600O (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?IL-Q6600O)
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... l?TT-W0101 (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?TT-W0101)
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... GEL-BD642G (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?GEL-BD642G) or http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... GEL-BD644G (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?GEL-BD644G)
also could go for the ballistix on oc.co.uk and either the 3870 or 8800gt.
That would be the sort of thing i'd be looking at for that money

[matz]

ok thanks!

[teknokid]

jonny seems to have the best idea :)

[matz]

Cheers, is the Gigabyte GA P35C DS3R; is this a decent P35 motherboard? planning on Q6600 to 3ghz on air with thermaltake ultra 120

[JDowdall]

the gigabyte p35 boards are good overclockers and have a good layout on everything, im gna get one @ some point in the future :D

[Jonny2Bad]

Cheers, is the Gigabyte GA P35C DS3R; is this a decent P35 motherboard? planning on Q6600 to 3ghz on air with thermaltake ultra 120 Not bad i put 1 in my gf's pc i didnt like the bios tbh, i personally would go for the asus board i said b4 for £10 more its defo the better board having used both.

[teknokid]

yeah, p5k range are very good.,....

[matz]

so wit the asus P5K range P35 chip
q6600
thermalright 120ultra
could i get 3ghz easy ? on air
would i need a core v increase? i dont get anything about oc

If i was to buy an asus P35 board which one would you advise?
Price up to £115, knowing that im already on a good wireless reciever and being in mind of future proofing?

[Jonny2Bad]

Yes only a slight increase though to about 1.3v for 3ghz the board i said to you i have done on the stock cooler and it was very comfortable.

[matz]

If i was to buy an asus P35 board which one would you advise?
Price up to £115, knowing that im already on a good wireless reciever and being in mind of future proofing?

[Jonny2Bad]

The 1 i suggested earlier in the thread buddy http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/spec ... l?ASU-P5KC (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-P5KC)
Have worked with this board b4 and liked it gives u the option for ddr3 later also. If you look bk i suggested most of the parts for your pc earlier in the thread.

[matz]

Thank you ;) blonde me once again ;)

i cant wait... its 1month and 8 days away..
on that day i will just wake up and build it, stuff opening my pressents till that has done and spoken to the microsoft bot ;)

does anyone know if its the microsoft sam voice?

my final choosen rig
Q6600
Asus P5KC
4GB PC6400DDR2 GeIL Black dragon
thermalright ultra 120
Antec 900
8800GT or GTS depends on the cash ;)

thanks for all your help and i wish for this thread to die now

[matz]

is it worth installing vista ultimate 32bit or stay with xp 32bit? i have both disks.

[teknokid]

upto you, install both :)

[matz]

ive only got one 250Sata harddrive? can i still do it?

[wuyanxu]

my friend's P5K-c BIOS is horrible. no direct fan control, overclocking menu is all messed up.

have a look at Abit iP35 Pro's uGUru BIOS and you'd know what's professionalism.

[matz]

how much is it and can i buy it from novatech?

[djgandy]

It's about 140quid, so If you think a fan control is worth £60 buy it.

There are other abit boards, I don't know if they have fan control in the bios though.

Abit are probably the best board maker around in terms of quality, but novatech doesn't stock them :\

[PeteA]

Abit are probably the best board maker around in terms of quality, but novatech doesn't stock them :\

That would be because the profit margin is very shallow so the only real way to make profit on them is to order huge amounts OR get direct from abit.

Best Mobo i've ever had. ABIT IC7 MAX3 :D

[matz]

can anyone send me links for abit P35 motherboards? thanks

[wuyanxu]

Abit iP36 Pro is very cheap now, when i bought it, i spent £130 on it

it gone down to 90 once, but for some reason, OCuk and Scan (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=605522)has upped its price back over 100

[Jonny2Bad]

my friend's P5K-c BIOS is horrible. no direct fan control, overclocking menu is all messed up.

have a look at Abit iP35 Pro's uGUru BIOS and you'd know what's professionalism.
I guess where im used to asus bios i found the oc menu a sinch, once u get your head round what everything means its easy.

[matz]

please post on my new thread on motherboard section on what motherboard i should get :) thanks

[teknokid]

NOO, the new asus bios is a bit confusing, it was better on the striker, but thats life.
Asus imo are the best board makers, i know the striker was a massive let down, but then so were all 680i boards and when you look at all asus's other boards they really are good.....
Id recomend a p5k, you wont be dissapointed.

[Jonny2Bad]

Yeah but the strilker was only a let down when we tried oc quads for me anyway i know you were unlucky with yours but mine as been a dream up till i paired it with the q6600. I have worked with the new asus bios and i dont find to bad tbh.

[teknokid]

is there a new one past 1305 i think was the last i had...

[Jonny2Bad]

yeah and that was the 1 that shut down all oc on quads thats why im on 1303 which asus have removed from there website, it goes down to 1301 from 1305

[teknokid]

hm, you see if they were nice, they would adapt the bios from striker 2 onto striker so that quad overclocking would work.... (since striker 2 is 680i with a pci-e bridge..)

[Jonny2Bad]

Well i find the whole thing strange and irritating tbh the 1303 bios is the 1 that works best but they withdrew it as the the p35 and x38 boards came out and put out the 1305 which just blocked all oc. Sneaky really

[matz]

its just COUGH ASUS trying to COUGH make money

[PeteA]

PC now built spec's below and using Vista Ultimate 64bit

Low CPU usage (between 0% and 10%) it hangs around 26 degrees @ 2.4GHz standard setup

I'm going to do some more tests later, tweaking etc and game playing at the weekend. It's definatly a good heatsink although I think I'm going to have to take the 200mm fan of the side of the case so I can get the door on it. (only just installed vista)

[djgandy]

NOO, the new asus bios is a bit confusing, it was better on the striker, but thats life.
Asus imo are the best board makers, i know the striker was a massive let down, but then so were all 680i boards and when you look at all asus's other boards they really are good.....
Id recomend a p5k, you wont be dissapointed.

P5k is fine, but it offers value. It's not better than any other board though. Stiker sucks because you are just paying because its their "top board".

At the end of the day it is the chipset that matters. Nvidia are awful. Any P35 board will be decent. Ok the cheaper ones might not have a bios option to keep your cpu temperature at 45.999999999999999999999999Oc but who really cares about that. Any true enthuasiast will have external hardware monitoring that anyway, or will be buying an X38. Things that do matter though are PCI slots and layout of PCI-E etc. You can spend £150 on a board, but when you can't get any of your cards in you're f**ked. OC to a billion ghz if you like, that hardware is never going to fit in that board if there is no slots.

Most of the features are contained within the chipset and, the P31/35/38 all share much of the same features. Infact they are pretty much produced on the same concept of E2Xxx -> E4XXX -> E/Q6XXX series.
The rest is up to the board companies trying to get your sales.

OCUK have some good ABit boards for a fair price. You can't go wrong with P35 boards though. Just make sure they have the things you really need.

[Jonny2Bad]

You always slag off the striker GN its not that bad a board some were unlucky with bad ones but if you had a good 1 it is a great mobo, just luck of the draw. Personally mines been fine it just wont oc the quad very well that doesnt make it a bad board in a general.

[teknokid]

the new striker seems a lot better, although i still wouldnt get one until sli becomes worth the investment..

[Jonny2Bad]

Yeah but you had a terrible time with your striker tek, where as you know mine has been pretty good and is still pretty good if i had water i could bet a far better oc than i can on air but so can any1 on water! Maybe i have just been lucky.

[teknokid]

Even so, having an x38 board everything is so easy, it overclocks majorly...
You're ram doesnt work to well jonny...

[Jonny2Bad]

No i cant get it past 850mhz but tbh considering the the actual performance gains of getting higher i can live with it on 4 4 4 12 and 850. the thing that bothers me the most is that i paid £100 for the 2 gig lol

[teknokid]

well i payed £200 for myn, and now its £30!!!
that was just over ayear ago, how things change.
There is actually quite a boost, although only a big jump will be noticeable. This year im planning on going extreme :) what that is you will have to find out...

[Jonny2Bad]

Wont be long tek keep quiet about your plans is not your strong point my young friend 8)

[teknokid]

haha, what do you mean? as in they dont normally happen, well your probs right there... but this one should be starting soon and thats when the surprise comes in, i got an amazing quote for it:)

[matz]

yorkfield? 3ghz / oc to 4ghz? tbh its too much ;) for my liking so far.. im waiting a year

[teknokid]

they can do 4.5/5 on water/phase, so they're very good. performance per clock is also higher. id wait for nehalem cores (the q or next)

[matz]

when are all these coming out rufferly?

will it meet the price range of q6600?

if not im just gonna get Q6600 8800GT P35

[matz]

what PSU would you advise from corsair

gigabyte P35C DS3R
Q6600 (room for overclock)
2 to 4GB of ram
1 or 2 hard drives (will upgrade to two later on in the year)
8800GT (room for overclock)
Antec 900
DVDrw

[teknokid]

erm, any would work from corsair, i would go 520/620 personally, give youself some room,

[matz]

would both of these have room?

[teknokid]

yes, the 520 would be plenty.

[matz]

would both of these have room?

[wuyanxu]

stop copy and pasting your questions he already answered your question

well, if you can get your q6600 to 3.6Ghz, i think it should match or beat the most expensive qx9700, so why upgrade?

wait for Nahalm, the real quad cores from Intel

[Jonny2Bad]

All q6600 go's will reach at least 4ghz with the right cooling thats what makes it the chip that every1 wants jeez a decent air cooler can get it to 3.6 :wink:

[PeteA]

The only reason to get a QX version of the Processors is because the multiplyer is unlocked where as overclocking with the standard Q's you have to use voltage and FSB

[matz]

Thanks sorry about reposting twice, connection problem at school :)

[teknokid]

and btw when multi overclcoking you still need volts...