View Full Version : Trying to raise £40 for a SATA hard drive!
acbluflame
10-10-2008, 11:04 PM
Carrying on the discussion from my topic in the CPU section, I did not realize that the motherboard I bought only had one IDE connector on it >.<.
I hope novatech will allow this:
I have a Xpertvision 8600GTS Super (HDMI) 512MB GDDR3 http://www.xpertvision.com/main/vgapro.php?id=73
which I have only been using for roughly 5 months I think. It's in near perfect condition :). I have original boxing with the CD and 4 pin molex to 4 pin pcie power converter.
Can anyone aid in my quest for a new SATA HDD?
sniperdude
10-10-2008, 11:28 PM
if you have IDE drives why don't you just buy and IDE to sata converter theres about £5 - £7 ?
acbluflame
10-10-2008, 11:30 PM
if you have IDE drives why don't you just buy and IDE to sata converter theres about £5 - £7 ?
In the long run, SATA are sort of replacing IDE I think :(
no sorta about it, SATA is faster, but more importantly smaller!
Nox
um, whats happened? you can get 2 devices on an IDE channel?
Nox
acbluflame
11-10-2008, 12:19 AM
Yeah, I've got IDE for both CD/DVD drive and hard drives. I can't put DVD drive on same cable as HDD otherwise the HDD will run as slow as the DVD drive.
Maybe if I can raise £10-20 for either converter or PCI IDE card maybe :o
Yeah, I've got IDE for both CD/DVD drive and hard drives. I can't put DVD drive on same cable as HDD otherwise the HDD will run as slow as the DVD drive.
it will work tho...
and tbh, the only real reason not to put both on the same channel isn't the speed, its to do with queue requests from what i remember, you'll get times the HD has to wait for the DVD to finish it's stuff... very annoying when it happens, but isn't as often as you'd think.
Nox
system7
11-10-2008, 12:25 AM
I think this is what you call a SATA Combo drive. It writes CD-R and reads DVD.
£12.34 should solve it. Good enough to install software anyway.
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?SAM-DVDS
acbluflame
11-10-2008, 12:31 AM
I think this is what you call a SATA Combo drive. It writes CD-R and reads DVD.
£12.34 should solve it. Good enough to install software anyway.
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?SAM-DVDS
That seems the best option :). Time to raise money somehow :(
Will accept donation :P :P :P
djgandy
11-10-2008, 10:24 AM
Yeah, I've got IDE for both CD/DVD drive and hard drives. I can't put DVD drive on same cable as HDD otherwise the HDD will run as slow as the DVD drive.
it will work tho...
and tbh, the only real reason not to put both on the same channel isn't the speed, its to do with queue requests from what i remember, you'll get times the HD has to wait for the DVD to finish it's stuff... very annoying when it happens, but isn't as often as you'd think.
Nox
This is correct. It won't slow it down. It is illogical to think it would. How do you define the DVD drive speed?
I used to have a DVD writer, went very fast, infact, it accelerated at the speed of gravity for two stories, then decelerated very rapidly...
Nox
acbluflame
11-10-2008, 11:10 AM
I thought it was: "the chain is only as strong as the weakest link"
http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardwar ... cable.html (http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/driver-support/271753-hard-drive-dvd-drive-same-ide-cable.html)
and yahoo answers
though you NEVER use an optical drive on the same ide cable as the main hard drive your os is on.!
as the data has to go through the optical drive first it slows your whole pc down as any optical drive is the slowest part in any pc
Are these sources wrong :o
djgandy
11-10-2008, 11:13 AM
I used to have a DVD writer, went very fast, infact, it accelerated at the speed of gravity for two stories, then decelerated very rapidly...
Nox
Haha, we have a pile of junk waiting to do that :D
djgandy
11-10-2008, 11:15 AM
I thought it was: "the chain is only as strong as the weakest link"
http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardwar ... cable.html (http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/driver-support/271753-hard-drive-dvd-drive-same-ide-cable.html)
and yahoo answers
though you NEVER use an optical drive on the same ide cable as the main hard drive your os is on.!
as the data has to go through the optical drive first it slows your whole pc down as any optical drive is the slowest part in any pc
Are these sources wrong :o
Yes. Even if it did go through the other drive it would simply be a pass through. The drive would not process the data. Unless the laws of physics have changed over night I cannot see how people can think this. If it is a case of it going through the DVD first then why not swap the positions on the cable ;) No logic behind the myth.
acbluflame
11-10-2008, 11:19 AM
Yes. Even if it did go through the other drive it would simply be a pass through. The drive would not process the data. Unless the laws of physics have changed over night I cannot see how people can think this. If it is a case of it going through the DVD first then why not swap the positions on the cable ;) No logic behind the myth.
Alright, thanks, my heart can rest easy again :)
How would the performance fare if I wiped the hard drive, and installed Vista from CD (to hard drive on the same cable)?
djgandy
11-10-2008, 11:28 AM
I'm not sure about that. I'm not sure if the drives can do a direct connection or if all data is processed by the controller and passed back. TBH though how much do you use your cd/dvd drive. Mine are rarely touched. It is not really worth worrying about.
acbluflame
11-10-2008, 11:33 AM
Hmm, well I use my dvd drive for watching dvd's, installing games and operating systems when I do a clean install (which I'm going to do for the new motherboard/cpu/gfx card etc.). Other than that, not too much.
I'm trying to use mountable images on daemon tools to lessen to dvd drive usage. Is there a way to do a clean install of vista without cd?
Hmm, well I use my dvd drive for watching dvd's, installing games and operating systems when I do a clean install (which I'm going to do for the new motherboard/cpu/gfx card etc.). Other than that, not too much.
I'm trying to use mountable images on daemon tools to lessen to dvd drive usage. Is there a way to do a clean install of vista without cd?
yeah, use a DVD instead :D
actually, you can do it off a pendrive... never tried though.
Nox
I'm trying to use mountable images on daemon tools to lessen to dvd drive usage.
eeep! that prog is full of spyware these days!! used to be great. Try magiciso instead, also works on vista and 64bit OS's, and free. Much smaller footprint too.
Nox
acbluflame
11-10-2008, 12:16 PM
Do I need to do a clean install for new hardware?
sniperdude
11-10-2008, 02:26 PM
I'm trying to use mountable images on daemon tools to lessen to dvd drive usage.
eeep! that prog is full of spyware these days!! used to be great. Try magiciso instead, also works on vista and 64bit OS's, and free. Much smaller footprint too.
Nox
optonal spy/addware
all you have to do is uncheck the box's and not install it
or download an older version
imo it is still the best prog of it's kind
acbluflame
11-10-2008, 03:31 PM
My dad, being the awesome person he is, decided to bail me out and get the 250GB Hard Drive SATA so everything alright !
:DDD
I'm trying to use mountable images on daemon tools to lessen to dvd drive usage.
eeep! that prog is full of spyware these days!! used to be great. Try magiciso instead, also works on vista and 64bit OS's, and free. Much smaller footprint too.
Nox
optonal spy/addware
all you have to do is uncheck the box's and not install it
or download an older version
imo it is still the best prog of it's kind
Unfortunately the older version doesn't work on 64 bit OS...
Nox
sniperdude
11-10-2008, 05:42 PM
well like i said mate the software is optonal anyway, you can stop
anything other than deamon tools installing by reading the installer and unchecking anything you don't
want
have a look at this thread at a guy saying the same as you
http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/f33/dae ... are-22182/ (http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/f33/daemon-tools-lite-riddled-spyware-22182/)
i have the lastest version installed myself and my system is clean
Interesting, even the 'big boss' says they had adaware before, so i guess phrasing it like than means that they don't anymore?
It _is_ a great tool, and if my interpretation of the above is correct, i'm glad they have taken it out. I was not going to install software with known '*** ware' on my system, especially when there were other alternatives. but, ho hum, I have magic iso, works for me, doesn't hog system, doesn't crash it, etc. Have to say, my memories of daemon tools were good, but it was pretty complex considering all i really needed to do was mount an iso... :)
Nox
sniperdude
11-10-2008, 08:05 PM
yeah he does clearly say it did have :lol: :lol:
even if it did have it and don't anymore it's sorta off putting isnt it ?
i have always trusted the program myself but then i always trusted avg untill version 8 came out
might just grab a copy of magic iso myself and give it a try
yep :( very offputting infact...
Nox
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