Windows 7

[Azza]

Anyone else trying it out?

I think its nicer than Vista and seems alot fast.


Here are some screenshots if anyone is interested.


The background is on a slide show and you can set it to change from every 5 seconds to a day. I think its a neat touch. :)


Desktop

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3264/3163177172_5523cf9473_b.jpg


MSN Preview - does this with most minimised stuff, like Firefox / IE. If you have multiple tabs you can see them in the little preview box aswell

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/3163178676_10b45a46e2_b.jpg


Folder preview

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/3163179448_84bb25bdc8_b.jpg


Personilse menu

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3096/3163180154_e1ae5904f0_b.jpg


Control Panel

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3263/3163180868_bf009262e2_b.jpg


More control panel options

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3126/3163181556_4ddd42b429_b.jpg



Ill put some more pictures and my comments later. :)

[Andrew]

Sorry to be a killjoy but given that Its highly unlikely you obtained this using legitimate means should you be posting about it on a commerical forum?

[JDowdall]

I really like the look of that, and the public beta is out very soon so i wouldnt really be worried.

[Azza]

Well so far ive installed, Skype, AVG, SB S&D,FF, Thunderbird, MSN, Winamp, Steam, CS:S, ATI Vista 32bit drivers all with no problems at all.

I really like this, its smoother than Vista, easier to use, some really nice features which I think are great.


So far I love it. :)

[Nelly]

Looks good, have you tried playing games? whats the drivers like i.e Nvidia or ATI? Does all your software work like it does with Vista?


Sorry to be a killjoy but given that Its highly unlikely you obtained this using legitimate means should you be posting about it on a commerical forum?It's a beta version, so no big deal thats what it's there for so people can test & give feedback on improvements before official release.

[JDowdall]

Yeah, i would like to see what is happening with drivers, have you just been using windows drivers? or what?

[Azza]

Been playing CS:S and Brothers In Arms: ***** Highway most of the day, few graphical glitchs in ***** Highway but nothing major. Been playing them in windowed mode while cahtting on MSN etc and worked fine.

Using a HD 4850 with latest ATI 32bit Vista drivers from ATI site and I havnt had any problems at all.

Everything ive installed has worked fine apart from Daemon tools, it requires a system restore but when restoring ive been getting a BSOD and on the restart the installation seems to restart from the beginning and then it asks to restart again. Over came that problem by installing PowerISO though. :)


Public beta is meant to be out today (Monday) by the way. Im not sure if there will be a 64bit version though.



Like I said im loving this, its really good. Lot of neat features and ive been using it all day and apart from the Deamon tools issue ive had no other problems at all.


When I can be bothered formatting my other hard drive ill put vista on it and run some 3d marks and compare them. :)

[Coops]

Yep I love Windows 7 as well. Hopefully they go RTM this year.

[JDowdall]

Is the public beta out today?

[Coops]

I have been told about a week for official release of the Beta, but as you know with release dates they don't always equal what they say.

[Jonny2Bad]

Keep us posted then John i will be up for giving it a go.

[Nox]

hmmm, might sign up to msdn for this

Nox

[JDowdall]

Woop :) keep us posted please mr coops :P see what my desktop makes of it :)

[chriswsm]

It does look good and I am glad it seems to run all the expected software. I was almost tempted to get Vista 64 but that is now forgotten. I can wait for 7

I would be cautious about AVG Free tho as it does not recognise the agentbypass.gen range of virus which I found out recently when Windows defender found it and AVG didn't. Its not in their virus DB. Oh well, it was about time I formatted and reinstalled XP anyhoo and I had all my important data backed up.

Rumour has it that the beta for Windows 7 will hit the streets by the end of this month. I have a tatty old lenovo laptop and I will see if it will work on that old dog.

[Scotty]

all i can can say is that from the looks of it, its what vista should have been :-(. just about to burn the iso to give it a try.

Scotty

[DonJ]

I am downloading Beta 7 now, its at 2% and been running for 45 minutes......

[Skywalker]

Is it going eat half my ram like vista ?

[Azza]

Is it going eat half my ram like vista ?


Even more actually.


For me anyway.

[Willzo101]

Azza i dont care much about Windows 7 now i have tried to download it unsucessfully about 5 times (**** microsoft servers!!!!), but i do want a link to that picture you have as desktop background :)

link? :D

[Azza]

Comes with W7 mate, if you wanna add me to MSN ill wing you it over there. :)

[Willzo101]

Comes with W7 mate, if you wanna add me to MSN ill wing you it over there. :)

cool i'll add you when im next on :)

[matz]

had problems downloading it via firefox, try ie =) Going to install it after my ED match :)

[JediFragger]

Whacked this on last night, love it 8)

[Taxation]

ive had a go, didnt want to fath around with doing a clean install etc
Got it running on a VM, works fine, running on 1gb memory and 1 cpu core, and runs quite well.

Runs faster than what vista does in a VM

[TheTranquilEye]

Installed it this morning and had a quick play before work.

First impressions are that it's Vista but Vista that's been put in a garage and had the seats taken out, body panels removed, a roll cage fitted and a turbocharger stuffed under the bonnet.

In other words, it's faster, leaner and more robust than Vista.

I like it very much.

This is good:

http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2009/01/12/the-bumper-list-of-windows-7-secrets.aspx

[GeordieNo1]

Nice blog there Tranq, thx for posting. ISO burner works a treat!

[Craig_T]

I'm using it. I agree too, that it is a lot better than vista and works better.

I never liekd Vista so went back to XP but I think I will stick with Windows 7 now though.

[peterattheboro]

Just put Windows 7 on the works laptop. Build 7000. Coming from Vista, I can't really see what's better compared to Vista. It's different and it's kinda stepping away from the traditional Windows format.

Only been using it for about 2 hours though.

And this is supposed to boot quickly aswell but it just seems the same as Vista.

[GeordieNo1]

Saw a nice bit of eye candy just before, drag a normal window down onto your taskbar, watch for the little ripple.

[Craig_T]

Saw a nice bit of eye candy just before, drag a normal window down onto your taskbar, watch for the little ripple.

You meaning the shaking type thing?

If so, nice spotting!

[GeordieNo1]

Aye, it sort of creates a radial ripple effect around the dragging arrow and shoots all around the window. It`s more effective if you drag the top of the window from the top of the screen then drag the bottom onto the taskbar. It auto resizes the window to fit the screen. Neat :)

[Tom|Nbk]

Absoloutely loving Win 7 at the moment. Seems like a cracking OS and has certainly matured a bit over Vista, the taskbar is my favourite addition over Vista.

[dvgeoster]

Woop :) keep us posted please mr coops :P see what my desktop makes of it :)

Windows decided to make it so it works on ultraportables so should do really well when finished (woop fast gaming)

[willhub]

The normal taskbar is much better where you can see the text.

[M4cc45]

The only thing I'm not happy with is the start menu. I much prefer the classic start menu.

Oh well hope they put in the option for classic start menu in the future.



M.

[willhub]

The only thing I'm not happy with is the start menu. I much prefer the classic start menu.

Oh well hope they put in the option for classic start menu in the future.



M.

Classic start menu from Win classic theme in win 2000 and below? :shock:

[M4cc45]

Well it was originally in Windows 95 - but I just prefer the option to have everything layed out neatly. I don't want to type everything I want access to and using the full menu is un-functional compared to the classic start menu.

It's just preference really.



M.

[E.Buttersnipe]

This thread has inspired me to try Windows 7.

This weekend I'll attempt the changeover.

[willhub]

This thread has inspired me to try Windows 7.

This weekend I'll attempt the changeover.

It's well worth it, the speed increase seems nice here.

The Beta's are pretty buggy at the moment though.

[E.Buttersnipe]

It's well worth it, the speed increase seems nice here.

The Beta's are pretty buggy at the moment though.

Understandable with it being a MS product!

Does windows explorer still change folder views constantly like Vista does? For example when you're trying to find a file, every single folder you double click hits you with a completely different view for the files in it, seemingly completely non-dependent on anything you've told it about how to view a folder.

[willhub]

Understandable with it being a MS product!

Does windows explorer still change folder views constantly like Vista does? For example when you're trying to find a file, every single folder you double click hits you with a completely different view for the files in it, seemingly completely non-dependent on anything you've told it about how to view a folder.

I'm sure since Windows XP there has been an option to make all folders have the same view? Maybe even before Windows XP? :confused:

[wellibob]

ive noticed the view changing, and even in vista, even thou i constantly remind windows i want a certain view, alot of the time, it just does as it pleases. Annoying , same in 7 i see :-x

[E.Buttersnipe]

I'm sure since Windows XP there has been an option to make all folders have the same view? Maybe even before Windows XP? :confused:

Yeah there has been, but for some reason with every Vista install I've done it never seems to remember what the view for any single folder should be.

There's a few guidelines around which supposedly fix it, but none have ever worked for me. http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/70819-windows-explorer-folder-view-settings.html <- that's one of them.


ive noticed the view changing, and even in vista, even thou i constantly remind windows i want a certain view, alot of the time, it just does as it pleases. Annoying , same in 7 i see :-x

That's a shame... I was hoping that it might've been one of the first things they'd fix!

[banger]

I've had it about a week now on a VM, and I like it. I'm not keen on the big Vista type desktop Icons by default but it seems as fast as my XP (I didn't go Vista) and everything seems to work. Can't try out Aero because VM driver doesn't support it. A few application install hiccups which W7 logged and sent to MS so hopefully they will fix or notify the program makers about compatability.

Overall I like it but I'm also still happy with XP which has everything I need and is fast on my current machines. Will I change when it's out, not sure depends on price and versions it's really just a fast Vista with a few bells and whistles.

[dvgeoster]

Sorry to be a killjoy but given that Its highly unlikely you obtained this using legitimate means should you be posting about it on a commerical forum?

Sorry to be a killjoy on your killjoying but key developers and journalists got the beta before christmas, and several people dont seem to have signed Non-Disclousure documents so this could well be legit.

Anyway eventualy wether we like it or not there is a good vibe round 7 (almost as bad as Apple hype dare i say?) it is quick and comes with less **** than Vista and eventualy we will all move on and look back on XP as we now look at 98 (scary thought)

[Alex_6n2]

Been running the 32bit version on my laptop for a few days. Working really well so far.

Had a few start bar glitches with firefox open but other than that I think its much better than Vista.

Vista averages over 900MB of RAM useage fresh from boot where as W7 averages 600 or less.

Boots up quicker too despite being on a partition on the inner side of the disk platter.

[chriswsm]

I have managed to get it to run on my tatty old IBM Lenovo T43, 1gb, 40gb HD,
When getting Windows 7 to verify how well my kit worked with it it gave my laptop a puny score of 1 out of 7.5 LOL This is probably due to the very limited graphics capability of the T43.

To my surprise it works rather well on the Lenovo and boots very fast. It was also a doddle to install. Some old software wont work but I shouldn't be surprised there.

Nice job so far Microsoft

[GeordieNo1]

That`s quite impressive Chris! Does the Aero (glass) effect work OK? :)

[willhub]

You think it would be usable on a 1.2GHz celeron, 384MB ram? :lol:

[magichater]

not bad looking in my opinion

[Baggpuss]

With a bit more ram it may do :-p

[allisterf]

You'd better hurry if you want the Win7 beta bits and key. The download closes 10th Feb 2009! See http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/dd353205.aspx for info.

[Baggpuss]

Indeed. Good thing ive got both versions on disk and 6 product keys ;)

[scrivz69]

Has anyone tried this?

http://keznews.com/5218_Windows_7_Plus_Patch_V6

its for the 32 bit only.


Forget this one i never read it properly it looks like some sort of crack....sorry i thought it wa genuine:(

[GeordieNo1]

Was only a matter of time scrivz ;)

[scrivz69]

Thats true bud it dont take em long does it.

[GeordieNo1]

Certainly doesn`t mate :D

[najkb]

When will the new M7 be out?

[najkb]

does it come in 64 bit?

[Baggpuss]

Windows 7 is probably going to be out late this year early 2010, and yeah its in 32-bit and 64-bit versions

[KyleG]

There has been a few sources saying last this year (sept/oct) or early 2010 (jan)

[Mr. Orange]

probably not, I heard that Microsoft were going to have 6 Beta Versions of Windows 7 before they release it for Retail....

[GeordieNo1]

probably not, I heard that Microsoft were going to have 6 Beta Versions of Windows 7 before they release it for Retail....

Not true, what Kyle said was estimated Microsoft themselves, the 6 versions you are on about explained here (http://www.itworld.com/windows/63477/windows-7-six-versions-explained) :)

[bob36]

My beta 64bit suddenly decided it was not genuine and refused to re-activate. I had to phone Microsoft's automated phone system and enter in a 54 digit ID and listen to another 54 digit code which finally sorted it. It was quite random but I was impressed with how relatively easy reactivation was.

[GeordieNo1]

Bob, you hadn`t just installed a couple a "Test Updates" by any chance? During the last couple of days, I`ve had one or two activation messages randomly appear and that`s the only change I`ve made to OS :\

[gresleys]

Ive got the legitimate beta version. Best operating system so far. Even runs some old progs when installing in XP compatibility mode.

[riboflavin]

i would bet a good chunk of my dough that it will be out in time for christmas. i work for a large oem who are one of the largest resellers of windows operating systems...not that i have any special insider information, but judging from the marketing efforts and internal IT movements i suspect we will be reading about RTM dates in august due to hit november.

a really good barometer would be to look for the big 3 pc manufacturers to start offering win 7 capable systems with free upgrades when the os does release..

[system7]

What's the score with drivers on Windows 7?

Seems to have got everything working bar TV Tuner with no effort on my part. Which is nice. :p

Do I need NVidia drivers to game, or just to run SLI?

[Marco01]

Do we know when the next beta version will be available, if it's available, or have I missed the window for a free download?

[riboflavin]

nvidia is maintaining a separate section on their site just for windows 7 drivers. windows update offers some form of drivers to get you running...but I would image the nvidia win7 page would have something newer...more functional.


What's the score with drivers on Windows 7?

Seems to have got everything working bar TV Tuner with no effort on my part. Which is nice. :p

Do I need NVidia drivers to game, or just to run SLI?

[riboflavin]

Do we know when the next beta version will be available, if it's available, or have I missed the window for a free download?

I have an MSDN account so I didn't bother with the open beta signups...check this page often as they may have yet another round of releases planned before RTM.

Windows 7 Beta Site (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-download.aspx)

[Baggpuss]

Do we know when the next beta version will be available, if it's available, or have I missed the window for a free download?

If you can get hold of an iso i can email you a beta key

[Marco01]

I have an MSDN account so I didn't bother with the open beta signups...check this page often as they may have yet another round of releases planned before RTM.

Windows 7 Beta Site (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-download.aspx)

Thanks, I'll be keeping an eye out.


If you can get hold of an iso i can email you a beta key

Cheers, seems that they are still providing keys (see link above) just not the Beta OS. Will see if I manage to find a copy *somehow* and if not keep an eye for another possible release.

[Chewie]

hmm, i finally managed to get a key for the 32bit and a 64bit (just in case) is it worth getting hold of an ISO download and installing ???

Would like to install it as a trial when i clean the machine up after i come back from scotland.

[Mr. Orange]

hmm, i finally managed to get a key for the 32bit and a 64bit (just in case) is it worth getting hold of an ISO download and installing ???

Would like to install it as a trial when i clean the machine up after i come back from scotland.

Well, i guess it is worth it, Build 7068 is certainly alot better than Build 7000
It is a pretty nice OS, Boot up and shutdown speeds are quick, the gadgets are pretty useful, and It supports everything (that i've used) software wise, also the Drivers Database is updated so i don't need to install some ****** (excuse the french) resource hogging HP Software (which i can't install, due to the error "OS not supported" =]) to connect to my Networked HP Photosmart C8180 printer.

=].

[Baldeagle]

I loaded up build 7077 yesterday & all working fine, only prob I had was with the esata card I had installed.

The only driver available from the seagate website was a XP/2000 one. I downloaded it anyway & installed it, & it worked perfectly. :)

[Chewie]

right, time to fire up azerus and see what i can find then i guess.

[Baldeagle]

right, time to fire up azerus and see what i can find then i guess.

Chewie, I loaded up the 64 bit version, I'm dead chuffed with it so far. :)

[Chewie]

found a 64bit and a 32bit (makes me laugh when i see it as x86)

one is doing 200k the onther only 5k.

ah well. shall burn it and see what comes of it later on.

[Baldeagle]

Go for it mate, there's win 7 graphics driver on the Nvidia site too.

[Chewie]

what about ur mainboard drivers etc?

looking now, but i know MSI don't have any listed.

[Baldeagle]

what about ur mainboard drivers etc?

Tbh I didn't load em up, I'm using an Asus P5Ql Pro & win 7 loaded em all in straight away. Quality. ;)

[Chewie]

Tbh I didn't load em up, I'm using an Asus P5Ql Pro & win 7 loaded em all in straight away. Quality. ;)

that'll do me!!!!!

heh same board, different maker (well, same chipsets etc)

[Baldeagle]

that'll do me!!!!!

heh same board, different maker (well, same chipsets etc)

Sorted bud, let us know how you get on. :)

[simonmaltby]

I have just started using Windows 7 and am absolutly loving it.

Much smaller footprint and very fast.

My favorite part is the fact that as soon as it loads I can open an application and it opens... Vista used to hang for ages before the application opened.

What i dont like... I miss the Vista open windows in task bar... When i have multiple IE windows open switching is a pain on 7

[snakedoc]

Anyone here got 7077 and an xbox controller? I get a BSOD if I remove it. I also had the issue with 7068.

[snakedoc]

Seems I am no alone and its not restricted to 7068 and 7077 looks like all builds affected. Bit of a show stopper for me as my son like to pinch mine to save his wireless ones batteries.

[timtim4005]

anybody out there tried windows 7 on this laptop? any chance of drivers?
please !!!!!!

[timtim4005]

sorry its a 755 in

[scrivz69]

Sorry Tim a bit more info might be needed for some help bud,as in what make and model of laptop you have.:)

[Fibre]

Just upgraded smoothly to the RC. :biggrin:

[WeeMan411]

How does Windows 7 run with games? Debating on whether to put vista or get a copy of 7 for my new build.

[Fibre]

How does Windows 7 run with games? Debating on whether to put vista or get a copy of 7 for my new build.

Its great for games, no problems at all for me. :)

[WeeMan411]

Managed to get hold of a copy and installed on a virtual machine. Runs nice and smooth actualy. Nice look to it aswell. Think I'm going to give it a test run on tuesday when my PC is built.

[nate]

How does Windows 7 run with games? Debating on whether to put vista or get a copy of 7 for my new build.

same. if 7 runs games well i will just use my xp and get 7 if not i might have to stick with xp

[Solari]

What drivers would I use for my Gigabyte P965-DS3 with this?

I'm keeping an eye out for Win7 RC1... Might have to have a sniff around tonight :)

[Baggpuss]

if anything vista drivers. Best way to make sure everything is compatible tho is to just to do an upgrade from vista

[Duke]

It is best to go to the motherboard manufactuers site and check if they have any beta drivers for Windows 7. Failing that, check the individual manufacturer sites (e.g. Realtek for network card if you have that one, Intel for chipset etc) and see if they do, as they can be more up to date. If neither do, then just use the latest Vista drivers.

Windows 7 will pick up several drivers itself. On my netbook it picked all drivers up. On my bro's laptop, it picked up most but after it connected to the web, the others came down automatically.

[Fibre]

What drivers would I use for my Gigabyte P965-DS3 with this?

I'm keeping an eye out for Win7 RC1... Might have to have a sniff around tonight :)


You don't need any, Windows 7 already has them. :)

[RawZ]

May 5th is the public release right?

[Fibre]

May 5th is the public release right?

Yeap, or you can get it now as its been leaked a while ;)

[Frog]

Hi All

Does it have a 64 bit version?

[GeordieNo1]

Hi All

Does it have a 64 bit version?

Certainly does ;)

[Sybex]

Windows 7 Release Candidate is available this morning, just downloaded it along with a new Windows 7 Product key

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

[Iainm]

Free latest OS for a Year :D

[snakedoc]

My issues with W7 build 7100 so far:

No Punkbuster support. Not fault of OS but still a deal breaker I play cod4 and cod w@w all the time.
Not being able to pn Recyle Bin to start bar and it to function.
BSOD while using DTV in WMC not present in previous builds.
No ability to customise shortcuts in Games Explorer
GUI is useless "window" dressing.
Not being able to pin Games Explorer to start bar

Improvements I noticed over previous builds:

No longer BSODs when removing Xbox controller.
I like the fade between desktop backgrounds.

I can see no point in moving over if the final release is anything like this. Even when Punkbuster is fixed by them, the OS offers nothing for me over Vista, less in fact.

Virtual PC is useless as running in XP mode does not allow games to be played, giving DX errors and only very generic hardware in device manager, such as S3 graphics when running an ATI 4870. It goes to show that MS feel that they will never get the compatibility with XP programs if they have to add this "feature".

It's OK as an OS, just not that great. I still prefer Vista and I am the sort who loves new toys. I was spouting Vista's virtues when many others were simply slating it.

[Sybex]

I have now installed Windows 7 RC with a fresh install from the Beta version, no problems at all, I think Windows 7 will be the fastest OS yet. It feels live I have upgraded my hardware to a super fast system, so much faster then Vista...IE 8 seems to respond a lot faster using Win 7.
I had no problems with the Beta version...I guess time will tell

[skunksmash]

Hi Novateckers.......:biggrin:

Windows 7 is a super piece of S/W, ive run every build since the start, & its only getting better......

im downloading the official RC now....:thumbs:im a member of the administration team over here at Sevenforums (http://www.sevenforums.com), its a great place for all things ''7''



:)SK

[Vic]

I think Windows 7 will be the fastest OS yet.

I *very* much doubt that.

Win7 will be dramatically faster than Vista - which was dramatically slower than everything else.

But on identical hardware, XP is likely to beat 7 hands down for speed. And that's before we get into any of the *nices or other types of OS.

Vic.

[TheTranquilEye]

My issues with W7 build 7100 so far:

No Punkbuster support. Not fault of OS but still a deal breaker I play cod4 and cod w@w all the time.

I can see no point in moving over if the final release is anything like this. Even when Punkbuster is fixed by them, the OS offers nothing for me over Vista, less in fact.

WHAT?????? It was OK in previous releases. BF2 works fine on 7057. This means that probably 80% of gamers won't be able to play online.

[snakedoc]

I *very* much doubt that.

Win7 will be dramatically faster than Vista - which was dramatically slower than everything else.

But on identical hardware, XP is likely to beat 7 hands down for speed. And that's before we get into any of the *nices or other types of OS.

Vic.

Tosh. Vista is much faster than XP on identical hardware, I should know I triple boot between XP, Win7 and Vista. Vista is the best and fastest at loading applications ect. Its slower at booting, but that's only because the install is 18 months old and has loads of extras which I choose to start with Windows.

[skunksmash]

I *very* much doubt that.

Win7 will be dramatically faster than Vista - which was dramatically slower than everything else.

But on identical hardware, XP is likely to beat 7 hands down for speed. And that's before we get into any of the *nices or other types of OS.

Vic.


i beg to differ, XP while a proven & much loved OS ...IS FINISHED!!

W7 will surpass its performance by leaps & bounds...... vista was only slower than XP ''pre-SP1'' & due to the fact vista was shipped with pre built units which had no where near enough RAM to run smoothly, that is one of vista's inherent flaws...its need for a bucket load of RAM, but if you have those resources vista will & does FLY!!!!

W7 has removed the need for this dependency, while keeping vista's best bits.... ''supercache'', & its still BETA, if any of you were privvy to the RC of vista then you would of wanted to commint suicide, i agree..... .but XP was plagued with the same problems in its inception....

as we can see W7 has certainly had the best start of ANY Microsoft OS & is sure to astound.....


:)SK

[Sybex]

I *very* much doubt that.

Win7 will be dramatically faster than Vista - which was dramatically slower than everything else.

But on identical hardware, XP is likely to beat 7 hands down for speed. And that's before we get into any of the *nices or other types of OS.

Vic.

On my PC, see Sig below, Windows 7 beats Both XP and Vista, Vista is faster then XP, but Windows 7 is the fastest by a long way here...

[Vic]

Tosh. Vista is much faster than XP on identical hardware

No, it isn't. It has many more layers that need to be executed, and that will necessarily slow things down.


Vista is the best and fastest at loading applications ect.

Then you're running pre-started applications. This is a hack that Microsoft has been using for years now - to make the apps appear to start quickly (in fact, they were started much earlier).


Its slower at booting, but that's only because the install is 18 months old and has loads of extras which I choose to start with Windows.

Actually, quite a bit of that is because it's pre-starting applications.

Vic.

[riboflavin]

much anger in you, i sense.

[RawZ]

No PB support is the only thing not making it my main OS :/

[Mr. Orange]

hmmm. I just installed it... I'll admit installed faster than Buld 7068.
It seems alot less p***y, well compared to 7068, nothing frozen or died yet.. so i'm happy =]

[skunksmash]

No PB support is the only thing not making it my main OS :/


this really is tragic..... i rack up many COD4 hours & this PB error has been a real thorn in my side since the first W7 build.

this ''API ERROR'' needs dealing with....BADLY :mad:, there is a petition you can sign, but they wanna pull their fingers out & just sort it, when has a petition ever been needed to get a company to produce a driver..??

COD WAW works perfectly online, but TBH i think its garbage in comparison...


:)SK

[skunksmash]

OK..... i just tried to ''upgrade'' my x64 7068 build to the RC & its a ''no go'' :(

so it looks like a fresh install, for the first time :mad:, oh well.....cant win em all.



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[gurusan]

Upgrading worked fine for me.

[skunksmash]

Upgrading worked fine for me.

GRRRR......:tongue:, ive been using ''7'' as my primary OS for months now ever since build 6801, every build since has upgraded without issue.... its just typical really its always the last one :rolleyes:




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[gurusan]

What error did it give you?

[skunksmash]

well the installer started running & just after you choose update from the web or not, a window popped up that simply said.....''this RC version cannot be upgraded, please refer to xxxx for information on backing up your data''

i may try it again before i hit the sack...... what build did you upgrade from, 7077..??



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[gurusan]

yup 7077...but I have been upgrading since 6801 as well... However the RC version I used was the one "available" before the 5th of May.

[Brad]

It said in the email that you have to do a fresh install and not upgrade. Is there any problems anymore?

[gurusan]

I've got no problems and like I said, I've been upgrading since 6801

[skunksmash]

I've got no problems and like I said, I've been upgrading since 6801

thats the problem right there....mine came direct from MS, yours was a leak... even though the hashes no doubt match this must be why some can upgrade & some cannot.....


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[!TIMMY!]

Just installed the RC, and installing drivers. Fingers crossed it will work with all my old stuff. I am looking forward to the full release already, dislike Vista atm.

[Alex_6n2]

Just upgraded mine fresh with the RC1.

Fancied a fresh start rather than upgrading my pre 7077 build with the mod.

I swear it uses even less memory now! Even with A/V and gadgets its less than 600MB! (compared to 1.1GB for Vista)

[Baggpuss]

i still dont get why it says you cant just upgrade from a previous build....ive done it twice now...

[skunksmash]

i still dont get why it says you cant just upgrade from a previous build....ive done it twice now...

the official RC must be different from the leaked ISO that was doing the rounds prior to may 5th....


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[Baggpuss]

scratch that, it hasnt updated the cutoff date, its still set for march not june :( not that its much of an issue i dont even know if ill be using that laptop in a year anyway

[CJ2]

Tried it a number of times since January , but just like Vista before it , it just isnt for me. I did try to like it and to be fair i used Vista for 6 months before i gave up on it knowing i'd never feel comfortable with it. I know they cant please everyone and everyone to his own.Just use what you feel happy with i guess, and for me thats XP. Sad i know but what can i do... lol.

[!TIMMY!]

Woo, ive managed to get my old usb tv receiver working as well as my PS2 EyeToy.

But Spotify won't load after installing :( and my old AstraSlim AS6000 scanner software just freezes as soon as I open it. I got the drivers installed ok.

Does anyone know of free scanner software that will work with my scanner and Windows 7? The inbuilt one on W7 won't.

[coolmiester]

Tried it a number of times since January , but just like Vista before it , it just isnt for me. I did try to like it and to be fair i used Vista for 6 months before i gave up on it knowing i'd never feel comfortable with it. I know they cant please everyone and everyone to his own.Just use what you feel happy with i guess, and for me thats XP. Sad i know but what can i do... lol.

This might help ease the transition Windows XP embedded into Windows 7 (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2009/04/27/windows-xp-embedded-into-windows-7/1)

[Iainm]

This might help ease the transition Windows XP embedded into Windows 7 (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2009/04/27/windows-xp-embedded-into-windows-7/1)

I think this is aimed at Large corporate customers with legacy Apllications . Possibly to encourage a better take up than Vista recieved within large corporate enviroments, due to companies not wanting to upgrade all their old applications for cost reasons

[skunksmash]

I think this is aimed at Large corporate customers with legacy Apllications . Possibly to encourage a better take up than Vista recieved within large corporate enviroments, due to companies not wanting to upgrade all their old applications for cost reasons

lol....its true, i cant think of any other reason you'd wanna see ''XP'' while running ''7'' :tongue:

[CJ2]

This might help ease the transition Windows XP embedded into Windows 7 (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2009/04/27/windows-xp-embedded-into-windows-7/1)

Thanks, i had read that before over on PC Advisor, but i dont see any real need to splash out more money for an OS that doesnt do anything i actually require more than the one i have. I made that mistake with Vista. !! Its all flashy knickers and no substance imo. Besides 7 should be a free upgrade to Vista as its little more than pack to fix Vistas shortcomings isnt it ? Also I dont think its right for those who bought Vista to have to pay more so soon after.

[Nelly]

Havent tried any of the beta's yet, does the XP compatability feature work with the current latest beta release?

[kris2424]

This is the first time i have tried 7 and i admit it seeems very good. The only problem i have is that i have installed CCC for my HD4670 and even though the card is working fine CCC wont open. I could do with getting this to work to use overdrive.
Im using 7 64bit and CCC 9.4

[GeordieNo1]

There is a way (http://maketecheasier.com/upgrade-windows-7-beta-to-windows-7-rc1-without-formatting-your-hard-disk/2009/05/08) to upgrade a beta W7 install to the RC1.

The only way to do it from the RC1 disk is upgrading from Vista, release notes tells us that. But even choosing a fresh install if you have beta running still doesn`t flatten the drive. It`s filed as windows.old and you can just pull in your user(s) settings from that ;)

[Baggpuss]

lol, mines running 7100, and ive just been upgrading from the beta. Dunno if its different because ive been doing the upgrade inside windows

[skunksmash]

lol, mines running 7100, and ive just been upgrading from the beta. Dunno if its different because ive been doing the upgrade inside windows

Its allowed you to upgrade b/c you torrented your 7100 before may 5th......;) i got mine direct from MS, so i cant upgrade from my latest 7069.... by the sounds of it if i wanna keep my data i need to downgrade it to vista then install 7100.... :(




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[GeordieNo1]

by the sounds of it if i wanna keep my data i need to downgrade it to vista then install 7100No m8, read my last post, I went for the latter route and I can confirm/guarantee that a fresh install DOESN`T flatten the drive you choose to install it on.

I too d/l direct from MS. On install, top option is upgrade, if you choose that and are currently running a previous beta, installation dialogue quits, choose the second option of a fresh install, like I said, all data is still available on your installation drive ;)

[skunksmash]

Ahh....... i see :D

so....its still a ''fresh install'' is it not, my files will remain on the drive in a ''windows old'' folder wont they.??, how do your apps work..?? do you just hunt down the launchers & replace them on the desktop...??

if its that simple im doing it in a minute....:tongue:

[GeordieNo1]

SK, picture/1000 words, here:

http://gn1.www.idnet.com/w7.jpg

Look at the dates, but don`t read too much into windows.old date, installation put me somewhere in the Pacific half a day in front of GMT :D

Absolutely everything is as it was bar the fact pre-fresh install and yes, go into windows.old folder and all Program Giles/Users folders are still intact, just drag and replace or re-install as appropriate. When you`re happy, delete all redundant folders, job done ;)

[Chewie]

or you can dual boot it, which is surprisingly easy.

If our runnig vista... aw heck, easier to link it.

http://www.techspot.com/guides/143-dual-boot-windows7/

[Iainm]

[quote=kris2424;101080]This is the first time i have tried 7 and i admit it seeems very good. The only problem i have is that i have installed CCC for my HD4670 and even though the card is working fine CCC wont open. I could do with getting this to work to use overdrive.
Im using 7 64bit and CCC 9.4[/quote I have the same card rumnning in Windows 7. I too had problems. I had to downlooad it again and reinstall it now it works fine

[skunksmash]

lol....its done!!! :D

492

now to configure this new beast....




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[kris2424]

[quote=kris2424;101080]This is the first time i have tried 7 and i admit it seeems very good. The only problem i have is that i have installed CCC for my HD4670 and even though the card is working fine CCC wont open. I could do with getting this to work to use overdrive.
Im using 7 64bit and CCC 9.4[/quote I have the same card rumnning in Windows 7. I too had problems. I had to downlooad it again and reinstall it now it works fine

Thanks i will give it a try again this afternoon

[Baggpuss]

Its allowed you to upgrade b/c you torrented your 7100 before may 5th......;) i got mine direct from MS, so i cant upgrade from my latest 7069.... by the sounds of it if i wanna keep my data i need to downgrade it to vista then install 7100.... :(




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not true, may have torrented build 1066 but not the latest one

[skunksmash]

not true, may have torrented build 1066 but not the latest one


well, your an anomaly mate..... i see hundreds come through our W7 site & all RC upgrade problems stem from this issue....


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[I3R0K3N7FEET]

i just fresh installed

[shaffaaf27]

i didnt like beta, desktop constantly crashing, hoping rc1 is better

[Nelly]

Used Windows 7 for a few days, I really do like it & intend on purchasing it when it is officially released it's great but once released I'm sure it will be the finished article in my opinion it still isnt.

For now I've gone back to Vista 64bit Ultimate SP1, reason being all my games work.

Also the Creative drivers don't seem mature enough, could anyone get the volume Panel working with Windows 7? i.e. to change Entertainment/Game/Audio mode etc so can enamble surround sound/crystaliser etc?

[koolpc]

Like Win 7 a lot. Smooth and very responsive.

[GeordieNo1]

Noticed a bug with RC1 that wasn`t apparent in 7057 ... when using small icons in the taskbar, image quality is rubbish ;)

[Baggpuss]

ive found an annoying bug, i have my taskbar at the top and when windows boots i get a stupid blue shadow below it every time, that goes away when i reposition the taskbar, but not until i do it. Is a bit of a pain

[koolpc]

No problems here! Must be hardware related?

[Urrys Currys]

im prity confused by whether windows 7 is out or if theres a public beta or a private beta? what one of that are there released? and if i have vista, should everything work with windows 7 as it does on vista?

[skunksmash]

im prity confused by whether windows 7 is out or if theres a public beta or a private beta? what one of that are there released? and if i have vista, should everything work with windows 7 as it does on vista?

anything you have running on vista will run on 7.


build 7100 RC is the ''public BETA'' & has been released.... all previous builds were unofficial, so they would of been ''private BETA's'' ;)




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[Baggpuss]

The latest windows 7 is the release candidate, which is essentially the last stages of testing before its released late october

[skunksmash]

the unofficial builds are continuing......build 7127 is out now, but im gonna stick with 7100 until the RC2 or the FINAL are released.... :thumbs:



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[bofh1971]

Hi Guys
I am about to install the RC1 on my X80R Pro
the thing is I was going to buy win7 in october anyway as I enjoed an earlier public release on a test machine,
the attraction here is that I would be essentially getting win7 for free for a year :)

I will post my results once I am done later this week.

[chico_stang]

anything you have running on vista will run on 7.


build 7100 RC is the ''public BETA'' & has been released.... all previous builds were unofficial, so they would of been ''private BETA's'' ;)




:)SK

It is not actually. The official public beta was released way back in January. What is now available is the official RC preview. I do not think it is a beta.

[bofh1971]

only two things dont work how they should on windows 7 with the x80r pro
the webcam software doesnt work, but the webcam is fine in MSN messenger

punkbuster needs to be manually updated

thats about it
running great in 64bit

[scrivz69]

only two things dont work how they should on windows 7 with the x80r pro
the webcam software doesnt work, but the webcam is fine in MSN messenger

punkbuster needs to be manually updated

thats about it
running great in 64bit

Morning Both,Thats strange but my cam works fine or it did last time i checked.:)

[snakedoc]

Punkbuster does not work. This prevents me from using it as my OS as I do play COD.

[I3R0K3N7FEET]

if anything windows7 will prob have punkbuster probs like windows vista had punkbuster probs, theres hella load of games i cant play online on vista due to punk buster, if anything its an evil creation and i hate it if you ask me its nothing to do with windows at all but the namby pamby p***ks who cba to update from XP and tbh there are loads of patches and solutions but the hassle of trying to get half of them to run again is just plain annoying..!!<< end of.. and tbh i refuse to go back to xp just to play the likes of battlefield 2142 etc..

[snakedoc]

if anything windows7 will prob have punkbuster probs like windows vista had punkbuster probs, theres hella load of games i cant play online on vista due to punk buster, if anything its an evil creation and i hate it if you ask me its nothing to do with windows at all but the namby pamby p***ks who cba to update from XP and tbh there are loads of patches and solutions but the hassle of trying to get half of them to run again is just plain annoying..!!<< end of.. and tbh i refuse to go back to xp just to play the likes of battlefield 2142 etc..

Not a single problem with Punkbuster on Vista x64.

Those stupid "smileys" are really annoying on the right.

[bofh1971]

punkbuster is fine, I just had to do the manual update :) I play cod too :)
and yes the punkbuster probs are the same ones that plagued vista, forums mention you must have all admin rights (natch) and manually update punkbuster, which it does fine, and in a sense is nice to have that extra level of control.

and scrivz69 my camera works, but the software that came with it is moaning about registry issues
not a big issue for me really, as the driver is fine and I can always get other camera software if I need it, but since its rarely used I wont be losing any sleep
also It works with MSN messenger.

[I3R0K3N7FEET]

i'll sort it out when i have to, not used a game where ive had to worry about punkbuster yet while on vista x64. but still my experiences before have been bad..

[_JustChris_]

I have been running windows 7 For nearly 1 Month and its Great.
The stylings and colours are superb and i like the idea of the action center which could be a good tool for new computer users =]

[bofh1971]

win 7 does run really well
I am going to stick with it long term, and its going to be test run at a lan party just to make sure it still packs the punch the xp install did at the last lan

and we should all realise its the future :)

[I3R0K3N7FEET]

if any of you guys running windows 7 it would be good if you can post some benchmarks in the benching forums, so far we've noticed about 20% gains in performance from users running W7 so it would be good to get more people doing them and more results.

cheers

[skunksmash]

if any of you guys running windows 7 it would be good if you can post some benchmarks in the benching forums, so far we've noticed about 20% gains in performance from users running W7 so it would be good to get more people doing them and more results.

cheers

TBH..... IMO 20% is far to generous a boost, some games do show an increase in FPS but others DO NOT!!

is still early days for W7 (even though it looks pretty & is certainly functional as a day to day OS) its still not as well configured as SP2 Vista...

give it a little more time & it will surpass ALL that have come before it.... :thumbs:

remember......visit my sig for all things ''7''




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[I3R0K3N7FEET]

when is vista sp2 released?

[skunksmash]

when is vista sp2 released?

not sure when its officially out but ......its out there via torrent, ive been running it about 2 weeks....:thumbs:





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[bofh1971]

well I would say that performance has gone up a little, but I like to review my system on how it feels to use rather than hard numbers,
I am getting great gameplay from most games, using pretty much the same graphics settings as before with win xp
the extra ram (all 4gb) seems to allow me to open more stuff quickly which is what I would expect,
otherwise its on a par with xp performance

[chico_stang]

I have been running windows 7 For nearly 1 Month and its Great.
The stylings and colours are superb and i like the idea of the action center which could be a good tool for new computer users =]

Its good indeed... :banana:

[I3R0K3N7FEET]

sorry but i really hate xp.. its ancient even vista is ancient already...

[_JustChris_]

Team Fortress 2 runs well On Windows 7.
I Wonder how long i have left to use it for?

[bofh1971]

weekend deals usually finish Monday :)
then again its only 6.99 to buy :) but you get best value with the Orange box which has HL2 HL2ep1/ep2 and Portal with it :)

[NeilX90]

I've just bunged the latest 7 onto the X90 and I'm disappointed that it *still* flags up a Code 12 conflict error with the twin 9800s. There must be something fundamental about how Win7 assigns resources that is incompatible with this machine, its BIOS, the graphics cards' BIOS or a combination of all of the above; it's perfectly happy and functional under XP/Vista.

Despite the Clevo D901 not shifting many units in the UK, it sold in huge numbers in the States and I can't find one person reporting the same problem - I'm guessing it's something localised to UK/European machines so I shall have to pester the tech. boys here at Nova for some BIOS updates methinks.

[Cnr]

I think Windows 7 is what Vista should have been when that came out. Does anyone think that Windows 7 will be dearer than Vista when it launches?

[chico_stang]

Does anyone think that Windows 7 will be dearer than Vista when it launches?

Maybe? :rolleyes:

[shaffaaf27]

Windows 7 is what Windows Vista SP2 should have been.

[Mungo]

You can't really say that, 7's been several more years in the making, and SP2 hasn't been properly released yet

[shaffaaf27]

win7 is vista with a new task bar, practially, it the XP to windows 2000, the 98 to 95, etc etc, its basically a SP. yeah its been years in the making, i.e vista.

[Cnr]

Is it OK to run Windows 7 RC as your main OS?

[NeilX90]

Many of us are. It's more stable than Vista, as quick, if not quicker, than XP in most day-to-day operations. Beware installing if you have *very* old hardware or peripherals you need to use and a quick Google will show any problems that might occur with software you have to run.

I'd had enough with XP incompatibility with my machine, but I've lost SLI for the privilege of the upgrade. I expect it to be returned (at some point as yet undetermined !) but be aware it is beta software - archive everything important to you before installing.

You could always run a dual-boot system if you have the space, but I understand many of us are running with it as the only O/S - nothing disastrous (apart from the mp3 debacle of a previous release) reported so far.

I guess it's down to you decide if the (free) upgrade has a tempting risk/reward ratio !

[Cnr]

I had it in a dual-boot before. Only problem was I couldn't really set the display resolution to what I preferred. As I don't think my x1950 is supported properly by the ATI windows 7 drivers. I will probably reinstall it after I get a new graphics card.

[system7]

I did get SLI working in Widows 7 Beta on updated NVidia drivers, when I last tested.

It was a bit flaky on high settings, and I didn't see the expected near-doubling of framerate, but I was not familiar with the Game (Tomb Raider Underworld) so can't be sure what was going on.

It would be interesting to try the DevilMayCry bench in W7 and see how it shapes up in SLI and crossfire. But I don't think W7 is particularly faster than Vista in gaming. It's DX10 in general that is speeding it up over XP.

[chico_stang]

Is it OK to run Windows 7 RC as your main OS?

I think so. I deleted Vista when the RC came out and have not looked back. By the time the RC expires, I'm sure the retail version will be out. Besides, the RC is stable and fast. :agree:

[robyrantor2]

is windows 7 alot better on gamming than vista

[kris2424]

Everything about 7 beats vista for me!

[Dean]

I'm running it on a spare computer and it seems to kick as over my quad core 2.8ghz with 8gb ram running vista 64 bit but unfortunatley the beta isn't stable enough for me at the minute. My brother is running it all the time on his only PC and swears by it.... lol

[Charlottie]

Looks good.

[bofh1971]

Well guys , had to move back to xp after being kicked by punkbuster a few too many times in Cod4
will return to windows 7 once that is all cleared up
unknown api's some of which are mis-identified as banned hacks in other games !?!? :(

also C&C Generals played up a little (no animation in menus, and lack of speech here and there) then again it was always a badly coded game

[GeordieNo1]

Heads up to anyone still running the Beta which expires on August 1st 2009. From June 1st 2009, PC will reboot every two hours so y`all need to update to RC1 which will expire on June 1st 2010 (you may get a similar nag as this date approaches).

[bofh1971]

yes they fully intend the bi hourly reboot from May 2010 , it was on the signup website
still well worth a run, though, like I said before only punkbuster stopping me from running it full time.

[skunksmash]

i think PB is fixed on COD4 for build 7100....... :thumbs:, not sure about other games though.


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[Darker X]

Im just really enjoying Direct X 11 - Crysis, Crysis Warhead and Far Cry 2 all look stunning!

[skunksmash]

Im just really enjoying Direct X 11 - Crysis, Crysis Warhead and Far Cry 2 all look stunning!

really...???, did you jump forward in time & grab a DX11 ready card..?? ;)

b/c as far as i know, DX10 is what all W7 users are running due to there being ''0'' H/W support for it yet...:thumbs:



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[bofh1971]

Hi Skunksmash, I was running rc 1 candidate (I think thats 7100 :) )
got kicked from a server for having (get this...) the BF2 winamp plugin hack
while playing cod4

I dont even own BF2 :)

some people on forums are saying that its the old problem Vista 64 had with PB
I will keep an eye on all the forums for a final fix then back to win 7 (its still on the hard drive, I just need to swap them out :) )

[Chewie]

really...???, did you jump forward in time & grab a DX11 ready card..?? ;)

b/c as far as i know, DX10 is what all W7 users are running due to there being ''0'' H/W support for it yet...:thumbs:



:)SK

Think someone has gotten confused there bud.

I checked the DXdiag the other day, and it told me the dx version is DX11, so thats probably what he's on about, just failed to realised his card was likely DX9 or DX10 at best

[skunksmash]

ok....just a heads up for anyone who cares.....build 7137 has just been leaked from Russia in x64 & x32 flavors...

600

& its in English.......:thumbs:, it should be available through google in a few days (if your lucky you may find it now)



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[GeordieNo1]

ok....just a heads up for anyone who cares.....build 7137 has just been leaked from Russia in x64 & x32 flavors...

600

& its in English.......:thumbs:, it should be available through google in a few days (if your lucky you may find it now)



:)SK

N1 ... you stick it on first and if it`s sans Ivan virii, lemme know :D

[shaffaaf27]

whtat the updates in the new build?