Hiper Type R Querys

[Ruud]

Hi Guys

Ive been looking at this power supply {Hiper 580 Type-R} for a while now but now and then i read bad stuff about this PSU such as

The Hiper Type R looks great, but sadly it is troubled by poor wiring and proved unreliable

And this

Rather unusually three of the sides, but not the rear, are constructed out of a metal mesh, which we couldn’t quite see the reason for. The idea is to reduce the forced air cooling effect and allow for better heat dissipation, but this way you would get the hot air blown back inside the case, which isn’t desirable

http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.a ... 474&head=0 (http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?page=4474&head=0)

so as you can see im now abit worried about going for this PSU about reading that review.

What is your views on this PSU

[Taxation]

I have it, My mate has had one for a few years now, and i think it is good. But i dont measure the voltages or open it up.
But it works well and lots of people like it, and they wouldnt like it if it was rubbish now would they???

[Coops]

Well i cannot say i own one, but certainly most of my test PSU on my bench here at Novatech are Hiper. I have not seen the review but i can say that using them as my test supplies i have found them to be reliable.
There are some that are far worse than Hiper so i don't think you could go wrong there.
We also use them to build some of our higher end PC's and they have been fine for us.

[Big Beere]

I have the Hiper Type R PSU (infact, ive got 2) ... Both have been excellent!!

Cheers,

BIG B 8)

[David T]

I have 3 Hiper PSU,s (350 silent, 480 Type R, 580 Modular) and all have been fine with no probs at all.

[Sanders83]

It comes with a 3 year warranty anyway so if it does go bang in that time you've only lost time, not money.

[Taxation]

and they look good :wink:

[djgandy]

They smell nice too

[Sanders83]

Smell nice? Eh?

[kstanley7]

I love my hyper modular psu :D no problems whatsoever with it for over a year now.

[Sanders83]

I love mine too. And it loves its new home in the back of my PC.

:D :D

[Ben]

No Problems with mine :)

[teknokid]

or mine, but myns the 730w :D

[Taxation]

been workin fine.
good thing is that the fan stays on when comp is turned off to get rid of excess heat, which i would presume makes the power supply last longer

[teknokid]

:O myn doesnt do that :(

[Kamata]

It really depends on your load.
If you are going to have multiple drives\harddisks matched with a top of the line quad processor and SLI gpu configuration - id advise you to get something a little more renound for reliability and stability.
The hiper Psu's are decent enough - but i wouldnt risk using a 580w on a power hungry system like the above, for fear it might go pop.

Id choose something from Corsair,Enermax,seasonic etc.

That said, it will be more than enough to keep the average gaming PC stable. To give an idea - i have Hiper 480w Type R running:

Intel Conroe E6600
Abit Ab9 Quad GT
2 Gig Corsair Xms2 6400C4
BFG 8800 GTS 640Mb
2 x 36 Gb Western Digital Raptors (raid - 0)
Thermaltake Tsunami

[teknokid]

i bet your psu can take more than that.

[Kamata]

I wouldnt take any chances - when it comes to upgrade
Im getting the Corsair HX620.

Eventually id like to go SLI with a quad processor and BFG physx card, also get some kinda sound card from creative...one day!!

[malazan]

A LOT of 580W Type R's have gone bad, the type M's are fine. There seems to be a number of problems with Type R 580W's.

The 730W M and R line, are very good - but then are they are based on Andyson's sever line which is a great build.

[Taxation]

type R 580W here still working

[malazan]

type R 580W here still working


I don't doubt it, that doesn't alter the fact that there have been a lot of reported failures.

[Taxation]

there probably are quite alot that have been returned. That didnt cross my mind for a second
I guess i got one of the good ones then ey :D

[nightmare99]

They used to be made with cheapo caps to fit a price point and some failed due to this but I believe these issues are now in the past. For a review of older ones see here
Hiper Type-R 480w


What does a company get when they take a long-in-the-tooth design built be a decent OEM, combine it with poor component selection, and then inflate the rating by a good 180 watts? It gets the Hiper Type-R 480w. The Type-R isn't really a bad power supply for a 300w unit other than its questionable capacitor selection but as a 480w unit it is a miserable failure as seen in the load testing and DC output quality. The unit posted decent, for this roundup, efficiency values and had decent voltage regulation but it failed at any load greater than 348w; that isn't good for a supposed 480w unit. Beyond that at 348w the unit was outputting such horribly dirty DC output that any component downstream of it would likely be silently damaged overtime if the system was stable. It really it is hard to say whether or not this unit was the worst in the roundup but if it wasn't it was very close. At $50 ($49.99 currently) the Hiper Type-R 480w is one of the poorest "values" we have seen to date.


http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM5Nyw4LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

If you check out reviews of more current models they are more positive and as other have said there are far worse psus about.

[system7]

Kinda confirms your gut feeling about PSU's in general, if you buy a cheapie, add a 100W...had no issues with my Hiper 4S425, and it is pretty quiet. But I prefer my Nexus 350W. It's class. :D

[malazan]

They used to be made with cheapo caps to fit a price point and some failed due to this but I believe these issues are now in the past. For a review of older ones see here
Hiper Type-R 480w


What does a company get when they take a long-in-the-tooth design built be a decent OEM, combine it with poor component selection, and then inflate the rating by a good 180 watts? It gets the Hiper Type-R 480w. The Type-R isn't really a bad power supply for a 300w unit other than its questionable capacitor selection but as a 480w unit it is a miserable failure as seen in the load testing and DC output quality. The unit posted decent, for this roundup, efficiency values and had decent voltage regulation but it failed at any load greater than 348w; that isn't good for a supposed 480w unit. Beyond that at 348w the unit was outputting such horribly dirty DC output that any component downstream of it would likely be silently damaged overtime if the system was stable. It really it is hard to say whether or not this unit was the worst in the roundup but if it wasn't it was very close. At $50 ($49.99 currently) the Hiper Type-R 480w is one of the poorest "values" we have seen to date.


http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM5Nyw4LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

If you check out reviews of more current models they are more positive and as other have said there are far worse psus about.



That was not the model i specifically mentioned, there's only ONE dodgy Hiper PSU in my experience and that's the 580W Type R. Not the 480W.


There are a lot worse PSU's around, Hiper's rep is good. Especially at the higher end. But there are better. The key to assessing PSU's is finding out the OEM and build quality.

You can't write off a brand because of a poor line - or give a blanket reccomendation to every made by one company based on their reputation.

For example, Thermaltake's PSU's prior to the Toughpower model were not brilliant, however the TT line is good, and the 1000W and 1200W models are even better built. They are fantastic PSU's.

Antec have produced good and mediocre PSU's for a long time, their Quattro's seem their best efforts for a while.

[malazan]

Kinda confirms your gut feeling about PSU's in general, if you buy a cheapie, add a 100W...had no issues with my Hiper 4S425, and it is pretty quiet. But I prefer my Nexus 350W. It's class. :D


A cheaper end PSU, with a lower wattage will run your system fine, there's nothing in your rig to stretch it. I'd guess you could run a generic PSU with that and be fine.

[malazan]

I wouldnt take any chances - when it comes to upgrade
Im getting the Corsair HX620.

Eventually id like to go SLI with a quad processor ('http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/products/a561x1y0z1p0s0n0m0') and BFG physx card, also get some kinda sound card from creative...one day!!


Don't take chances with high end gaming rigs, you want the best PSU you can afford, Corsair are bringing out some higher rated units pretty soon a 750W and an 850W plus maybe a 1000W too.

Quad and SLI GTS's huh?

This may be helpful to you.

http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_build_psu.html

I'd recommend the PCPandC 750W Quad, from that list based on price/ performance, and of course the build quality is superb. The Corsair 620W isn't listed as being GTS SLI Certified.

[malazan]

there probably are quite alot that have been returned. That didnt cross my mind for a second
I guess i got one of the good ones then ey :D


The truth is even with PSU model that's had problems you're still not very likely to have a bad one. It's just that i would avoid a model and advise others to avoid it too.

What is your system?

[Nox]

One of the three Hyper Type R's I installed around xmas last year has failed, kind of expect occasional failures though but after reading this i'm wondering if I should of gone for a different brand!

Nox

[malazan]

One of the three Hyper Type R's I installed around xmas last year has failed, kind of expect occasional failures though but after reading this i'm wondering if I should of gone for a different brand!

Nox


I'd be using Corsair 520W in future if i were you. A lot of Type R's tend to go after around a year or so.


That said it can dependent on how stressed the PSU is, if a user ha one of these installed and just surfed, run apps, and did some light gaming that lessens the chance of a blown PC, obviously intense gaming for prolonged periods of time really works a PSU.

That's why for high end gaming rigs, you cannot afford to skimp.

[Taxation]

my system doesnt really use much of this power supply

X2 3800 939skt @stock
1950xt@stock
3GB DDR400@stock
1*320GB HDD
Loadsa fans
Couple of opti drives nd thats it
That probably use a maximum of 400W tbh

[malazan]

my system doesnt really use much of this power supply

X2 3800 939skt @stock
1950xt@stock
3GB DDR400@stock
1*320GB hdd ('http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/products/a502x1y0z1p0s0n0m0')
Loadsa fans
Couple of opti drives nd thats it
That probably use a maximum of 400W tbh


I'd say less than that actually, the main thing is the 12v rails offer plenty of amps to cover your system.

[Nox]

This is pretty much my order of choosing PSU's:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho ... p?t=108088 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108088)

Then i'll way up cost of each one and try and get a reasonably high up the list one for as little as possible.

Nox

[malazan]

This is pretty much my order of choosing PSU's:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho ... p?t=108088 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108088)

Then i'll way up cost of each one and try and get a reasonably high up the list one for as little as possible.

Nox


That's pretty much spot on, i use something similair, both lists pretty much align

I'm in the market for one at the moment, the Post Office lost mine on route to RMA at SCANUK.....

Cheers Post Office!


I'm pretty much set on a Corsair 620W, or either PCPandC 610W or 750W Quad. Might depend on availability with the PCP's though.

I could make do with a 520W Corsair i suppose, but i'd rather do the job right once, but money is tight!

[Coopster]

I have a Type R that failed outside the warranty period, anyone suggest if its worth getting repaired?

Probably not cost effective and I've since bought a new one from Novatech, however it would be useful for a second project machine...

:wink:

[djgandy]

I have a Type R that failed outside the warranty period, anyone suggest if its worth getting repaired?

Probably not cost effective and I've since bought a new one from Novatech, however it would be useful for a second project machine...

:wink:

Cost of repair is probably more than cost of replacement.

[Coopster]

Hmm, another blue anodised doorstop then....