good thread to discuss

[id1x]

The Piercing Star and Black holes

At-Tariq The Knocking Star - Pulsar - YouTube

it would be good for me to talk about this thread because ohh well i pray
and all but in my mind its very hard for me to believe in the other side
or the spiritual round despite all the hard tests i have undergo in my life
i always think everything we know is man made but this one was
a big shock to me i didnt even know there is a little rock in the center
of black holes .
haw did that guy knew 2000 years ago . alone in the desert dosnt even
know haw to read or write .

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The guy 2000 yrs ago knew because man has been advanced before, but somewhere along the line he either destroyed himself, over populated himself, or a natural disaster wiped him out back to cave man times, it's really ignorant how todays man thinks he got here first, I have many theories about the past, but one thing you can't get away from is dotted around the world are ancient structures that could never be made with a flint chisel and sheer muscle, anyway I'll get off it there because in my experience the masses don't want to open their minds and would rather down anyone with a different opinion.

You carry on seeking knowledge for yourself though, all you find won't be true but it's for you to decide what is feasable and what isn't, and don't worry about global warming, man isn't doing it mother nature is, but the same controllers that invented religion are using weather patterns to frighten cash out of us, if you want a nice easy on the mind watch, BBC Earth's Extraordinary Journey, it's a 3 parter with Kate Humble presenting and may be on iPlayer right now, most of it is true what is said in the program, but pay attention to orbits and relativity to the sun when they explain it.

[id1x]

thank you a good reply .

so u are plus one on this :

i always think everything we know is man made

but again in what you said you are plus one on that the verses did actually describe the pulsars ?
and it was not made and added later in the book ? or a work of matching words with other things
by chance to make people believe ?

so you think of the existence of technology in the ancient time ? but those structures shows that the
stones where not cut by a machine and where lifted either by using water or sand by felling and emptying .

i do not want to go in opposite of any opinions much much as i wanted to hear opinions without
arguing . we founds lots and lots of monuments but we have not found any sings of the existence
of machines or electricity , so are these controllers intend to end the world in 2012 ?

they are just so superior that no government or human can know where they is or where hey live ?
or they are the rulers already ? like governments of of big nations or something ?
or they live out side the planet ? its really more complicated than my post lol

as for your advise to watch those programs i did actually see this thread on bbc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Ss-fuY3hTO8

but i thought it was too long to post .

[id1x]

The guy 2000 yrs ago knew because man has been advanced before,.

one thing also to notice in that script haw it says , the knocker and haw would you know about the knocker
it means that there is a part in that verses where it says well this is the black hole in the sky and in the middle
of it there a pulsar and haw would you know about the knocker? that is an advise not to try to study it because
its not for their time .

[Musthaveittoday]

TBH all this Nostrodamus and Mayan stuff they feed the imagination with doesn't really float me, what does, is the way the man uses these things to control us, and that's not to disregard either entity, with Nos you have a man of vision who could see where man ploughs on to his own demise and guessed a time frame for it, he says man exists in 3000AD as well in his predictions, that in itself shows man has been at the top of his game here tech wise before, because in a test scenario if you had MAD there would still be pockets of ppl living on remote islands who would build a canoe and the cycle starts over again, with his method he's simply picking where he thinks things will change course or be different and then when he feels man would be fully recovered and back at the keyboard,

Mayan calender? well the bloke writing it had to stop somewhere didn't he, maybe their demise came a minute after he wrote 21-12-2012 and he was no longer able to write anymore, there are also other messages in this, it can mean the end of a cycle and the begining of a new, it doesn't mean the world comes to an end,

Somewhere in the future a space rock will hit us to the degree that it will mess with things in a severe way, that could be next week or in 500000 years time,

I can't really answer your black hole questions as I don't really study them due to the fact that there is no knowledge of them yet, we know they exist but whether they are universe motorways to new solar systems we'll have to wait and see,

If you want me to answer the is there anybody out there thing, my gut feels we are the starting point, we will colonise eventually when the ability is there to do so, I also feel that if a man species different to us in appearance was here he was born here and either got wiped out in war or died out anyway, there is an ninteresting theory banding around that we are genetic clones of an alien race that came to earth because it was once rich in gold, they didn't want to do the spade work so they invented us and then left when the gold was gone leaving us here like an abandoned tool in a closed mine, but who knows, one thing for certain though, no right angle has ever been created by a chisel and a straight eye, those sort of cuts and the domain of a jig cutter.

[id1x]

but the same controllers that invented religion are using weather patterns to frighten cash out of us,

a bit off topic but i am a person who have respect to you , one asked me what is the difference between
the observers the united nations want to send to Syria and the arabic observers they sent few weeks
ago? they gave them a while to seas fire but they didnt and u knew they wont before they
know that at the security console . is that intelligence ? are these the controllers ?

or you are talking about totally different administration ?


about the stones or the stoned i saw a movie haw they did that they make cuts in
parts of the stone and hit it strong from above that way the stones split flat open
same way they make smaller sharp stones for weapons

watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHM8rfmQII

they manged to do it with bigger stones that is it

[Musthaveittoday]

What I mean by controllers is ppl like Al Gore who sell books of fear to ppl, there was some years ago a study done on it, they then wrote what they wanted and put the names of 7 leading scientist on it, all 7 wanted nothing to do with it nor agreed with the findings, that issue has been boiling since 1984 so anyone supporting it since is a part of it or just too dumb to look out of a window and make their own mind up.

The other bit you wrote about UN and Arabic observers, should be Arabic, Arab ppl are tribal, they will listen to each other but not outsiders, i.e the UN, they also fall in and out of love with each other quite often, but have a knack of making up just as quick.

[id1x]

The guy 2000 yrs ago knew because man has been advanced before, but somewhere along the line he either destroyed himself, over populated himself, or a natural disaster wiped him out back to cave man times, it's really ignorant how todays man thinks he got here first, I have many theories about the past, but one thing you can't get away from is dotted around the world are ancient structures that could never be made with a flint chisel and sheer muscle,

i had been researching into your thoughts and i got you amazing stuff :

1_ what you say is very logical , haw many years took man to make all this civilization ?
i mean all the machines and stuff ? 200 years ? we didnt have electricity 200 years ago .
mankind has been here 100s of thousands years before he could have gone instinct and back many times .
in fact we are on own way to one of those ages really fast .

look at this verses
http://quran.com/89

it tells of addd people who had a civilization that has never been created on earth not before or after
it means it was superior to our own but god erased them and did not show them like the pharaohs .

i also found you something about the old structure theory , it has been a fact now the the pyramids stones
are mud . exposed to heat . that is haw it was carried and cut so clean , because it was not carried or cut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQk_yBHre4

the bubbles in the pyramids stones where clear now because of the use of heat which done not
exist in real stones .
now Mohammad dose it again lol , look at this verses really deep man :

http://quran.com/28/38

lol he knew haw the pyramids where made , where for long decades the modern science stood still ,
thinking they where lifted on sand .
not only this but he tells a better story on why they where made at first places . and where the highest
building on the planet , because that dummy pharaohs was jealous of Moses and wanted to go up and talk
to god .

ok now here is a real strange thing happening in the middle east where we our population is being reduced
while the un keeps watching and telling the world well ok its just a clash .

this ufo is roaming the area lol blowing up stuff

Israel Sinai

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZWvIownb5Y

Iran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEscPbGFPlE

Strange UFO over Zanjan sky, also seen in other northen Iran cities - YouTube

Syria Lebanon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqifh...ure=g-logo-xit


some kind of machine ? it caused blasts also and burning smell

[Musthaveittoday]

i had been researching into your thoughts and i got you amazing stuff :

1_ what you say is very logical , haw many years took man to make all this civilization ?
i mean all the machines and stuff ? 200 years ? we didnt have electricity 200 years ago .
mankind has been here 100s of thousands years before he could have gone instinct and back many times .
in fact we are on own way to one of those ages really fast .

look at this verses
http://quran.com/89

it tells of addd people who had a civilization that has never been created on earth not before or after
it means it was superior to our own but god erased them and did not show them like the pharaohs .

i also found you something about the old structure theory , it has been a fact now the the pyramids stones
are mud . exposed to heat . that is haw it was carried and cut so clean , because it was not carried or cut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQk_yBHre4

the bubbles in the pyramids stones where clear now because of the use of heat which done not
exist in real stones .
now Mohammad dose it again lol , look at this verses really deep man :

http://quran.com/28/38

lol he knew haw the pyramids where made , where for long decades the modern science stood still ,
thinking they where lifted on sand .
not only this but he tells a better story on why they where made at first places . and where the highest
building on the planet , because that dummy pharaohs was jealous of Moses and wanted to go up and talk
to god .

ok now here is a real strange thing happening in the middle east where we our population is being reduced
while the un keeps watching and telling the world well ok its just a clash .

this ufo is roaming the area lol blowing up stuff

Israel Sinai

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZWvIownb5Y

Iran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEscPbGFPlE

Strange UFO over Zanjan sky, also seen in other northen Iran cities - YouTube

Syria Lebanon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqifh...ure=g-logo-xit


some kind of machine ? it caused blasts also and burning smell

This is fantastic you went for a look, and also that you returned to show your findings, for many years I thought the pyramids had to be some sort of ancient gypsum product manufactured on site, but whenever I suggested it I got shot down by the "experts", the Egyptian thing is a very good yardstick to life, it shows how man in his mortal state can invent any fantasy he wishes, and in their case it was the fantasy of immortality beyond human form with the riches going with them, now the immortality beyond the physical body may well be true but the taking ones wealth with you isn't otherwise all the tombs would never have contained any gold,

If you continue to seek knowledge (which I hope you will) you must be prepared to be seen as a nutcase by some, the likes of David Ike have suffered this but the likes of David Ike have shoulder's strong enough to say I don't care what you think I know what I believe and has continued to openly say what he thinks, it may well be he is fake but a lot of what he says is happening and also there are others who back up his theories in a scientific way, there is a series called Ancient Aliens I think it's a Nat Geo or Discovery series, a lot of the logical answers are in this series, you only have to look at farming today to see the parallels,

And for some inspiration to continue your quest for knowledge, virtually every man who has lived who had a real message to deliver was not appreciated until long after his death, most people are born, work and die and they don't look outside of what is told to them during that time, to these people anyone with a different train of thought is some sort of weirdo, and the reason is the level of the brain, the brain has many branches in it, some are alive and some are closed up, like a great painter or musician, they can produce things that provide pleasure, not everyone can but they can, and it's the same process that allows one man to consider avenue's and another to disregard them,

I've always thought that if you can think of an idea that idea can become a reality, so take levitation for instance, at this time it's not possible for man to float unaided but in years to come it maybe a reality, I feel magnet's have a large part to play in the future regarding technology, from simply being able to beat gravity to maybe even controlling the weather, maybe eventually we will find a planet that we can terraform simply by exporting water to it, although it will need to be in a one in a million orbit relative to another sun like planet, which as you know counts out all the planets we currently know exist in out solar system, it has to be in a sweet spot that heat can reach but far enough away so it doesn't get burnt up,

Anyway, I always say better to be seen as a mad idiot than an ignorant lemming believing all what the controllers want you to.


p.s while you are on Pyramids have a look for Greek pyramids, these are older than the Egyptian ones and also suggest a longer man history than the man written books suggest.

[id1x]

[id1x]

but whenever I suggested it I got shot down by the "experts", the Egyptian thing is a very good yardstick to life, it shows how man in his mortal state can invent any fantasy he wishes, and in their case it was the fantasy of immortality beyond human form with the riches going with them, now the immortality beyond the physical body may well be true but the taking ones wealth with you isn't otherwise all the tombs would never have contained any gold,

if you think am trying to seek knowledge or search or try to make my point into convincing you about life beyond human form where
you said immortality may be true i guess just because you want to be nice to me mostly . then its not the case with me at all.
i live inside this fantasy and its the only reality here in the middle east there is massive wars around me you get what am saying ?
there is nothing more to research everything has been said only the guns are speaking now as this very own fantasy that came
from this area is fighting furiously for its own survival , if you think its a monument or a pile of gold or it went
with the pharaohs your wrong guy . it just changed its shape or its as real as your fantasy about the material universe
so in that case you are the fantasy not it .

you are accusing the pharaohs of being supertishes and hallucinating about things ? and thinking as a 5000 yo nation ?
by taking their gold with them ? didnt their gold comes from their good work ?

ok check this verses guy and have your laugh if you pleases

http://quran.com/18/30
http://quran.com/18/31

if this is god then am living inside it as its fighting hard to survive its not the matter that if i am forced to believe or
not its just plain fact reality in the middle of a disaster area
those messages you are talking about like some kind of a tourist manged to pass through and shape today reality
they have never got ended so i dont need to search them .
each country here is fighting for what they believe its their god . which is totally a different thing than the next neighborhood
each house has its own small god now . ex :
iran sheeate religious which totally different from arab sudi one is fighting in Syria against the majority of the population
Egypt rejecting capitalism and living the fantasy of turning to a big al qauida base just next to Israel who seemed to have
already seized up Sinai .. on the other hand the Israeli have their own believes about them being the pharaohs hehe and
should own northern Egypt again to await for the return of the savior hehe they would nuke the planet to achieve that .
me on the other hand is something like this :
a 42 yo man living in Cairo a tormented city in a country living a disaster and at the verge of chaos war .
a stranger as am from syria hehe i have good friends here so i will talk and i will pm you this in case of ban .
my country population is getting reduced as 2012 phenomena is getting closer they have every reason to believe in doomsday
its not gaza its not africa what they are not telling you those media liars called the observers is that homs halab many villages
and soon the capital are getting wiped out right off the map a guy was running away to turki they asked him for papers
to prove his from homs he told them there is no homs anymore on the map homs is bigger than London , the guys at the palace
have no problem at all living by their own in the country after they kill them all . they have been living inside those shells
long enough anyway to speak the name of their unknown to them country . suddenly it looks to them something like
left for dead 2 game attacking their remote island . the normal reflex to them is to open fire .
the nato seized all oil countries in the area usa securing weapons of mass destruction leaving the gulf countries to play with their
little god , women's and gambling ohh nice F1 track races also recently , they formed the united gulf army based on us army
background and closed their kingdom . allah has nothing to do with the rest of the arabs now they are all expendable .
lonley i live with my 82 old mother , she can barley move . have heart and respiratory problems ,and hypertension
am jobless hated opened for violence attacks as they are attacking each others for no reasons they wont make an exception
for me ,

[id1x]

have a seat , a cigaret , and a glass of win if drink , sit back and listen to this guy at 2003

hehe the pharo sun ship fantasy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khufu_ship
sound a like a child toy compared to this



thanks admin for keeping this up you guys deserve an insight other than the fake tv media

[Musthaveittoday]

Nope, I think you are reading me slightly wrong (probably the language barrier to a degree)

With the Pharaohs I mean they believed all they attained in life would go with them into death, as the material wealth still exists in this world it's not possible for it to exist in another, in a parallel one maybe but the afterlife isn't a parallel universe to this one, if it exists at all it's the next universe so what was created on earth has remained on earth,

I do actually understand the middle east, I'm a very multi cultural guy when it comes to meeting people, and the one thing that stands out is we the people aren't enemies of each other, the leaders send us to war on each other but never fight themselves, which also justifies David Ike' theory about reptilian master's, if he is correct then they would effectively be the earth manager's and when they feel man is becoming too large what better way to cut him back than with a war, disease or natural disaster all instigated by the alien manager's,

I've had a small watch of your video and it is as I thought, another man warning of the evil spreading lies to enrage the masses against each other, and basically the man is correct, as for the media I gave up with them years ago, I watch the well rehearsed body language the readers beam out at the watchers, I also noted the well rehearsed wording methods where they both read the same story side by side like a couple of axemen in a metal band would riff at each other, all this is to convince the public to believe, watch yourself today, you will see one reading and the other nodding in agreement to make the watching mind agree, it's all subliminal mind control, just like the give up smoking campaign, it's not there to make you give up it's there to make you want another ciggy and spend more money to the tax man,

Basically we are all fools and they know it, they keep the wealth for themselves re-generating between themselves and scattering some corn so the masses stay workable, try to see life like a game of Monopoly, the player who bought Park Lane & Mayfair and built hotels on them is always going to win the game, me and you live in Old Kent Road & Whitechapel, when Mr Mayfair lands on our hotels he pays £20, when we land on his we pay £2000, and that is basically how unequal the world is,

Just so you know, I'm not laughing at you one bit, people who can discuss can normally become great friends, it's those that don't want to talk that end up killing each other, and I will watch all the video when I get a bit of time to watch it properly,

You keep asking life the questions, knowledge is the most valuable commodity in the world, being material wealthy is short term, so keep seeking and learning, and the crucial thing is to decide for yourself what is and what isn't true, something that was true in a world 1000 years ago may now bear no relevance in the modern world, so always consider this when deciding, look at all the facts, to find the reasons is much much more important than finding out about the event.

[id1x]

well if you are not laughing at me i want to tell you that i had lived a very unusual life . and still doing so .
ill give you an example haw unusual it is and remember this is only an ex . it manifest with me similar to
this way in many other forms .. this is you quote right ?

reptilian master's, .

if you have noticed my signature was on before you spoke to me about this david guy i did not know anything about this mater
before today .

this is surely one of them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6EnwYKNAiA

i had the lyrics of the song on my sig before you posted in my 20s i have came to the stat of communicating with Morrison
directly . i saw things similar to what happened , riots stuff people shouting i fortified my self , left my job did not make a family
i though i was gonna die back then but now i have this feeling once again am not afraid

[Musthaveittoday]

well if you are not laughing at me i want to tell you that i had lived a very unusual life . and still doing so .
ill give you an example haw unusual it is and remember this is only an ex . it manifest with me similar to
this way in many other forms .. this is you quote right ?



if you have noticed my signature was on before you spoke to me about this david guy i did not know anything about this mater
before today .

this is surely one of them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6EnwYKNAiA

i had the lyrics of the song on my sig before you posted in my 20s i have came to the stat of communicating with Morrison
directly . i saw things similar to what happened , riots stuff people shouting i fortified my self , left my job did not make a family
i though i was gonna die back then but now i have this feeling once again am not afraid

No Jim Morrison was the American version of John Lennon, anti establishment through music,

The reptile thing is one of David Ike' beliefs personally I think his mind has created them, although those he thinks are reptiles act in a way that a logical peaceful person would see then, i.e not normal and driven in a way that defies the way a normal person would act,

The mind is a very powerful thing, and it's easy to let it run wild with imagination and fantasy, Jim Morrison was also a drug addict and this is one way to really get things out of shape, once drugs have a hold on you you cease to exist, your body carries on until the drug kills that also, but the person you were gets locked away by the drugs like a prisoner in an unopenable prison, hence people like Michael Jackson going unrecogniseable once he was no longer in control of himself,

You should never be too influenced by musician lyric's, they are liars also, when I was young my favorite rock band was Iron Maiden, they had just started out at the time and the one thing they used to say a lot was..... Were not in it for the money just the music, well let me tell you this, for ppl who weren't in it for the money they'd release the same song on as many different formats as possible, you'd get 7inch black, 7 inch colour vinyl, 7 & 12 inch Picture Disc's and then another release with either an added track or one of them talking on it, ensuring that the avid fan bought the same song five times over, anything business will try to extract as much out of you as it can, it's called milking the cow,

So, remember what I said about the mind, there is no communicating with the dead, ghosts are mind illusions brought on by the mind being tricked by light, many of the people who claim to be able to speak to dead do it to make money, they prey on a desperate grief stricken person without any concience, if the dead could speak to you we'd all be able to do it, man controls man in many ways and a controlling man is never a pure man.

[id1x]

i did not speak with the dead , i connected with his thoughts and trances to have a sight of reality . some kind of telepathy .

You should never be too influenced by musician lyric's, they are liars also,
.

you have to like this guy :

http://quran.com/26/224
http://quran.com/26/225
http://quran.com/26/226

anyway sometimes they are not liars when they use reality . maybe in their imagination is wild as artists

[id1x]

The mind is a very powerful thing, and it's easy to let it run wild with imagination and fantasy, Jim Morrison was also a drug addict and this is one way to really get things out of shape, once drugs have a hold on you you cease to exist, your body carries on until the drug kills that also, but the person you were gets locked away by the drugs like a prisoner in an unopenable prison,

this is my story , this is what happened to me not to Morrison . even that i dont know what stuff he was on .
do go make me a poison then kill me with it then play smart by telling og that drug killed you.
i dont think Morrison was stupid enough not to be tend for his health and his by no way a replica to anyone .
he is an own style enough said .
when a guy tells you when the music is over turn out the lights that dose not mean close the theater and go home .
he reported certain mission and messages and the rest is unknown . turn out the lights means what to you then ?
i guess you can figure something out . i know what i have experienced and his no fake .

guy , with Jackson you cant be the number one youth idol in the world then to to trial as a pedo and a child killer.
bribe the jury with 2 trillion dollars and just go at large , he was either killed or changed identity , he palled his skin
before and changed his face and he would do it again .

at same time look at female idol . Britney spears and her reptile move . she always move her neck like a Leprosy
all girls try to imitate that move . suddenly she is a drug addicted in mental hospital losing custody of her family

its like those guys are unreal and trying to achieve something like ohh look everyone this is your god then the next day
we will turn him to a pig . its very demonic anti human thing for the youth to experience that .

for 40 years in Egypt i saw them worship their president like god . i never saw a person loved or happier than him
i saw then loving him from their hearts . now his 84 yo sick crying like children as they lay him in the prison sewage
to die . they did not issue a death sentence because they want him to die as he rut in jail .
you know about killing the morality of the masses ?
Saddam Hussein gadaphy where killed in a very special week in Muslim world , it the day after the holy month of
fasting , called the feast of ramadan declaring the end of the fasting by slaying sheep at dawn and making
a meal .. with lots of meat .
at this day exactly they killed saddam and ghadaffy do you get a sub minimal here ? . those leaders led the arabic world through many wars and disasters
for decades they are not street prostitute .

the Egyptian president will die at this day as the month are kicking in in this heat i bet he dosnt have air-condition
at that day of killing sheep he will die also . it will be due in few weeks ill be back and show u

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this is my story , this is what happened to me not to Morrison . even that i dont know what stuff he was on .
do go make me a poison then kill me with it then play smart by telling og that drug killed you.
i dont think Morrison was stupid enough not to be tend for his health and his by no way a replica to anyone .
he is an own style enough said .
when a guy tells you when the music is over turn out the lights that dose not mean close the theater and go home .
he reported certain mission and messages and the rest is unknown . turn out the lights means what to you then ?
i guess you can figure something out . i know what i have experienced and his no fake .

guy , with Jackson you cant be the number one youth idol in the world then to to trial as a pedo and a child killer.
bribe the jury with 2 trillion dollars and just go at large , he was either killed or changed identity , he palled his skin
before and changed his face and he would do it again .

at same time look at female idol . Britney spears and her reptile move . she always move her neck like a Leprosy
all girls try to imitate that move . suddenly she is a drug addicted in mental hospital losing custody of her family

its like those guys are unreal and trying to achieve something like ohh look everyone this is your god then the next day
we will turn him to a pig . its very demonic anti human thing for the youth to experience that .

for 40 years in Egypt i saw them worship their president like god . i never saw a person loved or happier than him
i saw then loving him from their hearts . now his 84 yo sick crying like children as they lay him in the prison sewage
to die . they did not issue a death sentence because they want him to die as he rut in jail .
you know about killing the morality of the masses ?
Saddam Hussein gadaphy where killed in a very special week in Muslim world , it the day after the holy month of
fasting , called the feast of ramadan declaring the end of the fasting by slaying sheep at dawn and making
a meal .. with lots of meat .
at this day exactly they killed saddam and ghadaffy do you get a sub minimal here ? . those leaders led the arabic world through many wars and disasters
for decades they are not street prostitute .

the Egyptian president will die at this day as the month are kicking in in this heat i bet he dosnt have air-condition
at that day of killing sheep he will die also . it will be due in few weeks ill be back and show u

I see you are very aware of the game overall,

The pop stars could indeed have been manipulated into a controlled life, and some as you say do have good lyrics that do send messages, I liked the Doors myself (Jim Morrison was the singer) people like him and Lennon scared the **** out of the establishment because they told people to look for themselves,

With Hussain,Gaddaffi and Bin Laden, their stories maybe simple lies tbh, two were supposedly killed and the evidence shown to the world was like a photoshopped picture, Gaddaffi in later life looked nothing like Gaddaffi so there's no real proof that the real Gaddaffi has even been alive for many years, personally I wish the West would leave the Middle East alone (this is why I said I understand btw) what the Western leader doesn't understand about the Middle East is it's made up of people who if they give you trust expect you to honour it, not that much different to Asian ways tbh,

This is all a perfect model of broken trust where the interference of one has unbalanced the other, which is why I said it's not the people who have a problem with each other, it's the trouble maker at the top that cause the damage, basically American domination plans, so they remove the man and place their own yes man in his place.

[id1x]

yes we easily got to the point when replicas are used , and the fighting will start , so we may as well start using our breaks . before the confusion reach a higher level . 70% of the world petrol is in the middle east , the day another power source is invented or that oil dries up , you wont see anyone from the west in this area . including Israel maybe

[id1x]

something i remembered from when i was a child

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VObQfWMgmIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP49-qftyuk

this story seems the exact match to davied fantasy i think he copied this series directly . i guess you gonna like this one hehe